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> the world won't go down due to climate change. It won't go down because of some silly war either. When most collapse-aware persons write about "the end of th

> the world won't go down due to climate change. It won't go down because of some silly war either. When most collapse-aware persons write about "the end of the world" they mean "the end of complex human civilization", not the total destruction of the planet or even the end of humanity. > It's just a bit but maybe in a thousand years we will come out of our puberty. You're asserting that we'll solve the phosphorus problem (among others) in the next 50-100 years, then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_phosphorus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_phosphorus

sazz 4y ago
If you look back 150 years or so the "complex human civilization" which existed back then don't exist anymore. Maybe only in a museum or some buildings here or there. We can now label that replacement by being "evolved" or "transformed" - but the way people thought back then, were dressed, behaved in a social environment, worked or lived is now totally different. Some of those aspects are better now, some aspects got worse. What I want to say is that we can already say good bye to the current way of life because it won't exist in 150 years anymore. Maybe we have found a way that people are not triggered anymore by advertisement to consume things because they are bored with their life. And yes - a lot of things will hit us hard. Maybe we are going to solve it, maybe we will being forced to adapt. A lot of people will die, a lot of people will be born. If we can reach space, then the possibility of 10+ billion people is rather good. But even if we shrink to 500 million it won't be the end of complex human civilization. And to be honest - are you proud of the current form of "complex human civilization" and would it be such a bad thing if it would being replace with something else?

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> the world won't go down due to climate change. It won't go down because of some silly war either. When most collapse-aware persons write about "the end of th

by acuozzo 4y ago

sazz 4y ago
If you look back 150 years or so the "complex human civilization" which existed back then don't exist anymore. Maybe only in a museum or some buildings here or there. We can now label that replacement by being "evolved" or "transformed" - but the way people thought back then, were dressed, behaved in a social environment, worked or lived is now totally different. Some of those aspects are better now, some aspects got worse. What I want to say is that we can already say good bye to the current way of life because it won't exist in 150 years anymore. Maybe we have found a way that people are not triggered anymore by advertisement to consume things because they are bored with their life. And yes - a lot of things will hit us hard. Maybe we are going to solve it, maybe we will being forced to adapt. A lot of people will die, a lot of people will be born. If we can reach space, then the possibility of 10+ billion people is rather good. But even if we shrink to 500 million it won't be the end of complex human civilization. And to be honest - are you proud of the current form of "complex human civilization" and would it be such a bad thing if it would being replace with something else?