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So currently, athletic scholarships are a situation where the university commits money for tuition, and the student commits to playing the sport. This proposal

by wglass 4y ago

So currently, athletic scholarships are a situation where the university commits money for tuition, and the student commits to playing the sport. This proposal has the military committing to paying the tuition. The student commits to playing the sport AND to military service. Seems like this primarily benefits the university (reduced cost for scholarships) not the student.

aidenn0 4y ago
NCAA limits how many athletic scholarships a school can give out. The beneficiaries are those who would otherwise would not have received a scholarship.
- jbigelow76 4y ago
  So have the NCAA lift/remove the limit.
  - aidenn0 4y ago
    Good luck with that; the NCAA exists to ensure schools can get top sports talent for as little money as possible.
  - bena 4y ago
    The NCAA limits scholarships in an attempt to level playing fields. If scholarships were unlimited, schools with money could just scholarship their entire team.
nickff 4y ago
It would likely benefit universities who are either lacking an athletics program due to cost, or are unable to offer 'good' athletics scholarships. As such, this program would likely provide scholarship opportunities to 'marginally talented' varsity athletes.
whakim 4y ago
I imagine that they're mostly targeting sports where the university doesn't typically offer (full) scholarships. That's probably why basketball and football aren't included. There's also the possibility that the student wouldn't be obligated to play the sport in order to get the scholarship money. Most students want to play their sport anyways.
- daniel-cussen 4y ago
  That's smart because in fact football, specifically football, correlates the worst with military (according to whatever sources I happen to have). Every other sport is better for military training than football. There may be obscure exceptions, like things that can barely be called sports, but that's irrelevant because of their being obscure exceptions. Football is like...about explosiveness, right? I mean I had a keen interest in football growing up in Chile, distaste for British sports, but beyond having a little real football football myself that was impossible for any other students of my school to acquire, there was literally nothing I could do to actually play this sport. Nobody played "fútbol americano" anywhere...OK thinking back, there were some tag football games in middle school, and we got together and played real football with real tackles just for the love of this sport in high school a little bit, secretly...so fun. Fucked up tackles, spinal. Literally zero opportunities though. Just literally none. I heard much later there were two actual teams in the city, made of who knows whom. Baseball there was some of that, it was an American school so they had enough players for two teams, it was really fun...just fun to play an American sport, patriotism is fun! Just fun to do American things like a normal American kid, how was I supposed to know baseball was a boring sport, I had a great time! Dreaming of returning to America, the land of my birth[1]. I just dreamed of playing, never of being on a league, just actually playing. There was a lot of basketball in Chile, that I will say. There there were some opportunities. But that's not what military training is about really. So you have to fund more obscure sports. Like track, running a two-minute 8 [hundred meter race] that's perfect, hey a platoon of that...and the thing too is it just isn't as theatrical as football or basketball, it's not good television. I've competed in more 8's than I've watched. Grit isn't glamorous. [1] Which I did, by beating the system at college admissions. So I was never going to be a truly good student, strictly because I was too defective for that, brutal and completely untreated learning disability. But what I could do was want it more, focus on what was essential, yeah being smart ADD notwithstanding, working like FUCK just white-knuckle it, focus on giving admissions committees what they truly wanted, and sacrifice every other metric as though it were gasoline.

by wglass 4y ago

aidenn0 4y ago

NCAA limits how many athletic scholarships a school can give out. The beneficiaries are those who would otherwise would not have received a scholarship.

jbigelow76 4y ago
So have the NCAA lift/remove the limit.
- aidenn0 4y ago
  Good luck with that; the NCAA exists to ensure schools can get top sports talent for as little money as possible.
- bena 4y ago
  The NCAA limits scholarships in an attempt to level playing fields. If scholarships were unlimited, schools with money could just scholarship their entire team.

nickff 4y ago

It would likely benefit universities who are either lacking an athletics program due to cost, or are unable to offer 'good' athletics scholarships. As such, this program would likely provide scholarship opportunities to 'marginally talented' varsity athletes.

whakim 4y ago

I imagine that they're mostly targeting sports where the university doesn't typically offer (full) scholarships. That's probably why basketball and football aren't included. There's also the possibility that the student wouldn't be obligated to play the sport in order to get the scholarship money. Most students want to play their sport anyways.

daniel-cussen 4y ago
That's smart because in fact football, specifically football, correlates the worst with military (according to whatever sources I happen to have). Every other sport is better for military training than football. There may be obscure exceptions, like things that can barely be called sports, but that's irrelevant because of their being obscure exceptions. Football is like...about explosiveness, right? I mean I had a keen interest in football growing up in Chile, distaste for British sports, but beyond having a little real football football myself that was impossible for any other students of my school to acquire, there was literally nothing I could do to actually play this sport. Nobody played "fútbol americano" anywhere...OK thinking back, there were some tag football games in middle school, and we got together and played real football with real tackles just for the love of this sport in high school a little bit, secretly...so fun. Fucked up tackles, spinal. Literally zero opportunities though. Just literally none. I heard much later there were two actual teams in the city, made of who knows whom. Baseball there was some of that, it was an American school so they had enough players for two teams, it was really fun...just fun to play an American sport, patriotism is fun! Just fun to do American things like a normal American kid, how was I supposed to know baseball was a boring sport, I had a great time! Dreaming of returning to America, the land of my birth[1]. I just dreamed of playing, never of being on a league, just actually playing. There was a lot of basketball in Chile, that I will say. There there were some opportunities. But that's not what military training is about really. So you have to fund more obscure sports. Like track, running a two-minute 8 [hundred meter race] that's perfect, hey a platoon of that...and the thing too is it just isn't as theatrical as football or basketball, it's not good television. I've competed in more 8's than I've watched. Grit isn't glamorous. [1] Which I did, by beating the system at college admissions. So I was never going to be a truly good student, strictly because I was too defective for that, brutal and completely untreated learning disability. But what I could do was want it more, focus on what was essential, yeah being smart ADD notwithstanding, working like FUCK just white-knuckle it, focus on giving admissions committees what they truly wanted, and sacrifice every other metric as though it were gasoline.