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That was pat tillman. He wasn't in college when he enlisted. He was an established star in the NFL ( arizona cardinals ). If I remember correctly, the announcer

• wmeredith 4y ago
  Every game, not every Superbowl. At least here in Kansas City. There's always a fly over.
  • jessaustin 4y ago
    Whiteman AFB is like 50 air miles from Arrowhead Stadium. Anyone with a Sunday flight might as well buzz the game; it's closer than the training ranges. But yeah, the military marketing is egregious. If the Chiefs weren't in their heyday right now, I'd probably stop watching football altogether.
    • rascul 4y ago
      > But yeah, the military marketing is egregious. I don't recall specifics nor can I pull up any source, but I remember seeing in the past something about the US military sometimes pays organizations to do flyovers.
      • jessaustin 4y ago
        I think they do pay for lame in-stadium stuff like "let's all clap for this random war victim", but even NFL will take off a few seconds to watch fancy planes.
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• jerglingu 4y ago
  His enlistment was glorified, but bear in mind it was during a time when the ugly truths and outright lies of the GWOT had not been uncovered entirely. The fake claims of of WMD's in Iraq had not been outright nullified yet, and the Afghanistan campaign had not yet devolved into the goalless, meandering, whack-a-mole presence it lazily morphed into in its later years. In hindsight, sure Tillman's enlistment was a bad decision. But as we generally understand/presume his motivations, his enlistment and willingness to fight and die was for what was thought to be a noble and just cause. I happened to join the same Ranger Battalion Tillman was in after he was killed. The ground force commander at the time of Tillman's death (and perhaps whose decisions mostly attributed to Tillman's death), Major Hodne, later came back to 2nd Ranger Battalion as its commander when I was still active. He won no respect from any of us enlisted guys. Last I heard, he was a general in charge of general infantry training in Fort Benning. Fort Benning is the home of the infantry, where most basic and advanced infantry courses for the US Army are held. The irony is thick. Not writing this to say you're necessarily wrong. The two major GWOT wars in Iraq/Afghanistan were bullshit, and Tillman along with thousands of others were killed for nothing worthwhile. There's just more nuance to the whole debacle that I think are worth pointing out. Or maybe I'm just insecure at how pointless all that shit was and I'm writing this to validate my/others' actions, hard to tell.
  • WaxProlix 4y ago
    Wow, now that's interesting. You were so close to that cover-up; it's something that's nagged at me for a long time now. Do you suspect there was motivation to murder Tillman because he'd been saying some fairly disillusioned shit just before his death? How did the battalion feel about the subject, was it discussed? Taboo? Obviously I understand if you can't say too much.
    • ren_engineer 4y ago
      Tillman was almost 100% assassinated, he was talking to Chomsky and was set to come back for an anti-war tour during election year. If Tillman lives Bush doesn't get a 2nd term, he was the poster boy of the war and would have exposed all the lies about it. Military also illegally burned his journal and videos he'd recorded he was shot from within 10 yards in the back by American weapons, which for some reason the media never talks about. The official claim was that he was killed from so far away they couldn't recognize him as American >The following day the Associated Press reported that a doctor who examined Tillman's body after his death wrote, "The medical evidence did not match up with the scenario as described",[19] also noting that the wound entrances appeared as though he had been shot with an M16 rifle from fewer than 10 yards (9.1 m) away
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