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Not who you were asking, but I can take a stab at this. Short Term rentals of homes or condo units can erode a sense of community in an area where that's a com

Not who you were asking, but I can take a stab at this. Short Term rentals of homes or condo units can erode a sense of community in an area where that's a common behavior. AirBnB renters aren't going to be around long so they have no incentive to be respectful to common areas, or respectful of noise levels or whatever else. Imagine buying a condo and all of the units around you are AirBnBs, or otherwise short term rentals. I think you would want to eventually get to know your neighbors a bit, but in this case they are constantly cycling in and out instead. I think weakening communities is something we're already seeing a lot of. Maybe it's a problem, maybe not, but I think AirBnB could potentially be contributing to this and it is worth considering the impact that might have.

jen20 5y ago
> Imagine buying a condo and all of the units around you are AirBnBs All of my recent research into condos showed any building where this could be an issue has explicit prohibition on short term rentals as part of the HOA. The more egregious HOAs even have prohibition on long-term rentals without a permit which can be denied by the HOA.
- wombatpm 5y ago
  I refer to this as the Singapore solution. Singapore is nice, but you can’t buy chewing gum and caning is acceptable punishment for minor infractions. Many HOA’s are similar
- munificent 5y ago
  I think you are reinforcing their point. The idea is to imagine what that would be like. The reality is so obviously undesirable that HOAs outright prohibit it.
hirvi74 5y ago
My city is the apparently the "Bachelorette Party Capital" of the world. So, of course, AirBnB would not pass up such a golden opportunity. According to a recent bit of data from AirBnB, approx. 65% of hosts on AirBnB own two or more short-term rentals [1]. Such ownership has strongly impacted our housing market, albeit it is not the only factor, but still a major contributor to the erosion of our housing market. Many of the anecdotal complaints I have heard are things like: 1. Obnoxiously loud and large parties/gatherings at inconsiderate times of day. 2. Unfamiliar cars and strangers in your community e.g. if the house next to yours is listed on AirBnB who knows what type of people are staying next to you -- they could be upstanding citizens or violent/non-violent thieves scouting out your neighborhood. People renting the unit are not always the only ones to stay there, and who are the police going to question when they have no idea who was there or when they up and left to return back home? 3. Vandalism and/or littering of surrounding properties. 4. Lack of community like the OP posted above. It also appears as of recently, that AirBnB's are being targeted for crime [2]. If one chooses to burglarize an AirBnB in my city, you have a pretty high chance of preying upon an n > 1 group of unsuspecting, young, unarmed women in an unfamiliar city who are more than likely not in the rental most of the time i.e. the perfect target for thieves. There are allegations that thieves are working with Uber/Lyft drivers to find out which addresses are AirBnBs or not and which ones the renters are currently away from. Such actions are absolutely horrible, but honestly rather clever. Think of it this way -- it's easy as being a driver for Uber/Lyft, picking the group of renters up, text your buddy the address, and boom -- a thief's dream come true. Neighbors won't call the cops because so many people are in/out of the rentals, they can't keep track of what is normal or suspicious activity. [1] http://insideairbnb.com/nashville/ http://insideairbnb.com/nashville/ [2] https://fox17.com/news/local/nashville-bachelorette-party-burglarized-at-airbnb-in-west-end https://fox17.com/news/local/nashville-bachelorette-party-bu...

jen20 5y ago

> Imagine buying a condo and all of the units around you are AirBnBs All of my recent research into condos showed any building where this could be an issue has explicit prohibition on short term rentals as part of the HOA. The more egregious HOAs even have prohibition on long-term rentals without a permit which can be denied by the HOA.

wombatpm 5y ago
I refer to this as the Singapore solution. Singapore is nice, but you can’t buy chewing gum and caning is acceptable punishment for minor infractions. Many HOA’s are similar
munificent 5y ago
I think you are reinforcing their point. The idea is to imagine what that would be like. The reality is so obviously undesirable that HOAs outright prohibit it.

hirvi74 5y ago

My city is the apparently the "Bachelorette Party Capital" of the world. So, of course, AirBnB would not pass up such a golden opportunity. According to a recent bit of data from AirBnB, approx. 65% of hosts on AirBnB own two or more short-term rentals [1]. Such ownership has strongly impacted our housing market, albeit it is not the only factor, but still a major contributor to the erosion of our housing market. Many of the anecdotal complaints I have heard are things like: 1. Obnoxiously loud and large parties/gatherings at inconsiderate times of day. 2. Unfamiliar cars and strangers in your community e.g. if the house next to yours is listed on AirBnB who knows what type of people are staying next to you -- they could be upstanding citizens or violent/non-violent thieves scouting out your neighborhood. People renting the unit are not always the only ones to stay there, and who are the police going to question when they have no idea who was there or when they up and left to return back home? 3. Vandalism and/or littering of surrounding properties. 4. Lack of community like the OP posted above. It also appears as of recently, that AirBnB's are being targeted for crime [2]. If one chooses to burglarize an AirBnB in my city, you have a pretty high chance of preying upon an n > 1 group of unsuspecting, young, unarmed women in an unfamiliar city who are more than likely not in the rental most of the time i.e. the perfect target for thieves. There are allegations that thieves are working with Uber/Lyft drivers to find out which addresses are AirBnBs or not and which ones the renters are currently away from. Such actions are absolutely horrible, but honestly rather clever. Think of it this way -- it's easy as being a driver for Uber/Lyft, picking the group of renters up, text your buddy the address, and boom -- a thief's dream come true. Neighbors won't call the cops because so many people are in/out of the rentals, they can't keep track of what is normal or suspicious activity. [1] http://insideairbnb.com/nashville/ http://insideairbnb.com/nashville/ [2] https://fox17.com/news/local/nashville-bachelorette-party-burglarized-at-airbnb-in-west-end https://fox17.com/news/local/nashville-bachelorette-party-bu...