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You can't just legally avoid taxes by not letting your employer know. Sure, they prob won't know and you'll get away with it, but you're technically breaking th

You can't just legally avoid taxes by not letting your employer know. Sure, they prob won't know and you'll get away with it, but you're technically breaking the law and an employer won't knowingly condone that. So it's not that they have a right to know where you are, it's that if they do notice and not act on it that's a legal risk to them as well since they're enabling it. (IANAL but this feels common sense.)

dheera 4y ago
I wasn't saying avoid taxes -- mostly just that the "90 day" thing is nonsense, because if you're a remote employee, you're effectively just a really intelligent amoeba on the face of the Earth without a well-defined location. Pay your taxes, but if you say 153 days in Thailand or wherever you can get a long enough tourist visa, and use a VPN to the US and get your work done, I'm not sure why anyone would, should, or even has a right to care.
- schrodinger 4y ago
  Thailand has a right to care. You're earning money and not paying taxes to their roads, police, fire department, etc—all the things govt provides. When you're a true tourist, you are likely making up for this by boosting the local economy.
  - dheera 4y ago
    Usually by being someone with money and spending it on rent, food, etc. you're already making up for this. Countries with tourist visa stay limits are usually just to make sure you have the funds to leave. In general, if you come back the next day on another flight, with the intention of continuing to stay and spend money, they'll generally have no problem with it.
- refurb 4y ago
  The company cares because they have legal obligations as well. Just because you pay for you taxes doesn't mean the employer is in compliance. Just like the US, many employers are obligated to pay additional fee/taxes/payments such as social security etc.
- bonoboTP 4y ago
  Why do you think you have the right to just settle in other people's countries and ignore their laws (on taxes and other things)?
throwawayboise 4y ago
The simple answer is to do away with the notion that earning income should be taxable. Tax on the consumption side, it's easier to enforce and harder to avoid.
- phantomathkg 4y ago
  That would be simple if AirBnB wrote the law. But sadly, they aren’t.
- techdmn 4y ago
  The problem with taxing consumption is that it's pretty regressive. Not to say that there aren't solutions, but the existing sales tax, gas tax, etc aren't it.
  - notch656a 4y ago
    Taxing consumption instead of investments and savings seems like it would guide society more towards saving and investment instead of short-term consumption, though, no? Personally I'd rather not have taxes at all, but if you forced me to pick on of the three I'd pick consumption every time.
    - adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
      how do you want to pay for roads?
      - CryptoPunk 4y ago
        A congestion tax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_pricing#Impact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_pricing#Impact
      - notch656a 4y ago
        Tolls. Privatize the roads.
        4y ago

dheera 4y ago

I wasn't saying avoid taxes -- mostly just that the "90 day" thing is nonsense, because if you're a remote employee, you're effectively just a really intelligent amoeba on the face of the Earth without a well-defined location. Pay your taxes, but if you say 153 days in Thailand or wherever you can get a long enough tourist visa, and use a VPN to the US and get your work done, I'm not sure why anyone would, should, or even has a right to care.

schrodinger 4y ago
Thailand has a right to care. You're earning money and not paying taxes to their roads, police, fire department, etc—all the things govt provides. When you're a true tourist, you are likely making up for this by boosting the local economy.
- dheera 4y ago
  Usually by being someone with money and spending it on rent, food, etc. you're already making up for this. Countries with tourist visa stay limits are usually just to make sure you have the funds to leave. In general, if you come back the next day on another flight, with the intention of continuing to stay and spend money, they'll generally have no problem with it.
refurb 4y ago
The company cares because they have legal obligations as well. Just because you pay for you taxes doesn't mean the employer is in compliance. Just like the US, many employers are obligated to pay additional fee/taxes/payments such as social security etc.
bonoboTP 4y ago
Why do you think you have the right to just settle in other people's countries and ignore their laws (on taxes and other things)?

throwawayboise 4y ago

The simple answer is to do away with the notion that earning income should be taxable. Tax on the consumption side, it's easier to enforce and harder to avoid.

phantomathkg 4y ago
That would be simple if AirBnB wrote the law. But sadly, they aren’t.
techdmn 4y ago
The problem with taxing consumption is that it's pretty regressive. Not to say that there aren't solutions, but the existing sales tax, gas tax, etc aren't it.
- notch656a 4y ago
  Taxing consumption instead of investments and savings seems like it would guide society more towards saving and investment instead of short-term consumption, though, no? Personally I'd rather not have taxes at all, but if you forced me to pick on of the three I'd pick consumption every time.
  - adgjlsfhk1 4y ago
    how do you want to pay for roads?
    - CryptoPunk 4y ago
      A congestion tax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_pricing#Impact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_pricing#Impact
    - notch656a 4y ago
      Tolls. Privatize the roads.
      - 4y ago