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> What makes me angry about all this Go-bashing It's just a language! Take it easy. The guy is not "heaping on invectives" - he's not criticizing you or someo

> What makes me angry about all this Go-bashing It's just a language! Take it easy. The guy is not "heaping on invectives" - he's not criticizing you or someone you care about. He's pointing out some flaws in a language in a sarcastic way.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago
I would consider "Evidently, the Go team didn't want to design a language" to be at least borderline invective. From dictionary.com, definition 3: "an insulting or abusive word or expression". Yeah, that's pretty clearly insulting.
Karrot_Kream 5y ago
Oh just some sarcasm: "Mom smokes, so it's probably okay" "I remember fondly the time an audience member asked the Go team "why did you choose to ignore any research about type systems since the 1970s"? (Emphasis his, not mine) "It doesn't matter who points out that "maybe we shouldn't hit ourselves in the head with a rake repeatedly"" "Or you can be horrified, as you realize that those complex problems only exist because Go is being used." "you adopted a language that happened by accident" (a direct criticism at Go users) "Evidently, the Go team didn't want to design a language." "Because it needed to be familiar to "Googlers, fresh out of school, who probably learned some Java/C/C++/Python" (Rob Pike, Lang NEXT 2014), it borrowed from all of these." I just have up here. Do you really think a production conversation can start from this? ESR has flamed less haughtily.
- oxnrtr 5y ago
  It only hurts, because it is true.
Karrot_Kream 5y ago
Oh just some sarcasm: "Mom smokes, so it's probably okay" "I remember fondly the time an audience member asked the Go team "why did you choose to ignore any research about type systems since the 1970s"? (Emphasis his, not mine) "It doesn't matter who points out that "maybe we shouldn't hit ourselves in the head with a rake repeatedly"" "Or you can be horrified, as you realize that those complex problems only exist because Go is being used." "you adopted a language that happened by accident" (a direct criticism at Go users) "Evidently, the Go team didn't want to design a language." "Because it needed to be familiar to "Googlers, fresh out of school, who probably learned some Java/C/C++/Python" (Rob Pike, Lang NEXT 2014), it borrowed from all of these." I just gave up here. Do you really think a production conversation can start from this? ESR has flamed less haughtily.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago

I would consider "Evidently, the Go team didn't want to design a language" to be at least borderline invective. From dictionary.com, definition 3: "an insulting or abusive word or expression". Yeah, that's pretty clearly insulting.

Karrot_Kream 5y ago

Oh just some sarcasm: "Mom smokes, so it's probably okay" "I remember fondly the time an audience member asked the Go team "why did you choose to ignore any research about type systems since the 1970s"? (Emphasis his, not mine) "It doesn't matter who points out that "maybe we shouldn't hit ourselves in the head with a rake repeatedly"" "Or you can be horrified, as you realize that those complex problems only exist because Go is being used." "you adopted a language that happened by accident" (a direct criticism at Go users) "Evidently, the Go team didn't want to design a language." "Because it needed to be familiar to "Googlers, fresh out of school, who probably learned some Java/C/C++/Python" (Rob Pike, Lang NEXT 2014), it borrowed from all of these." I just have up here. Do you really think a production conversation can start from this? ESR has flamed less haughtily.

oxnrtr 5y ago
It only hurts, because it is true.

Karrot_Kream 5y ago

Oh just some sarcasm: "Mom smokes, so it's probably okay" "I remember fondly the time an audience member asked the Go team "why did you choose to ignore any research about type systems since the 1970s"? (Emphasis his, not mine) "It doesn't matter who points out that "maybe we shouldn't hit ourselves in the head with a rake repeatedly"" "Or you can be horrified, as you realize that those complex problems only exist because Go is being used." "you adopted a language that happened by accident" (a direct criticism at Go users) "Evidently, the Go team didn't want to design a language." "Because it needed to be familiar to "Googlers, fresh out of school, who probably learned some Java/C/C++/Python" (Rob Pike, Lang NEXT 2014), it borrowed from all of these." I just gave up here. Do you really think a production conversation can start from this? ESR has flamed less haughtily.