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>without taking a huge pay cut ;), more vacation days and only 35hour/week Would you mind sharing in which area) industry one can get such a good deal in Germa

>without taking a huge pay cut ;), more vacation days and only 35hour/week Would you mind sharing in which area) industry one can get such a good deal in Germany? All i found was 40h/week, some with overtime.

bitschubser_ 5y ago
The 35h workweek is quite common in companies with an "IG Metal Tarifvertrag" in place, most companies in the automotive industry and their supplying industries provide such contracts, but also a lot of medium size companies... Don't expect FANG salaries ;)
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  Aren't those IG Metal companies shit in the SW dev department due to outdated mentality thanks to German boomer management, heavily birocratic, with poor pay? I'm asking since the companies in Austria with IG Metal equivalent are terrible in those regards: poor pay for SW devs as their main money making products are some automotive/mechanical widgets instead of SW, boomer management insists on commuting to the office to some remote village because if the guys in the machine shop need to be in the office to do their work then so should the devs and everyone else, outdated SW, tooling and dev practices, poor equipment (some cheapo underpowered Dell/HP/Lenovo bogged down by corporate spyware that the pensioners in IT insists everyone must have, including SW devs). Kinda confusing to me, since you said you're getting nearly swiss money and it's not what I imagine at IG Metal companies :)
  - bitschubser_ 5y ago
    Hi, most of them yes, but they are und er pressure to good people and in a lot of companies a generation change happens with new ideas. But you're right for every innovative company there are dozen quite old fashioned :(. The big ones usually get it, Daimler, trumpf to name a few... From my personal experience a lot of companies in Switzerland are more conservative

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>without taking a huge pay cut ;), more vacation days and only 35hour/week Would you mind sharing in which area) industry one can get such a good deal in Germa

by ChuckNorris89 5y ago

bitschubser_ 5y ago
The 35h workweek is quite common in companies with an "IG Metal Tarifvertrag" in place, most companies in the automotive industry and their supplying industries provide such contracts, but also a lot of medium size companies... Don't expect FANG salaries ;)
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  Aren't those IG Metal companies shit in the SW dev department due to outdated mentality thanks to German boomer management, heavily birocratic, with poor pay? I'm asking since the companies in Austria with IG Metal equivalent are terrible in those regards: poor pay for SW devs as their main money making products are some automotive/mechanical widgets instead of SW, boomer management insists on commuting to the office to some remote village because if the guys in the machine shop need to be in the office to do their work then so should the devs and everyone else, outdated SW, tooling and dev practices, poor equipment (some cheapo underpowered Dell/HP/Lenovo bogged down by corporate spyware that the pensioners in IT insists everyone must have, including SW devs). Kinda confusing to me, since you said you're getting nearly swiss money and it's not what I imagine at IG Metal companies :)
  - bitschubser_ 5y ago
    Hi, most of them yes, but they are und er pressure to good people and in a lot of companies a generation change happens with new ideas. But you're right for every innovative company there are dozen quite old fashioned :(. The big ones usually get it, Daimler, trumpf to name a few... From my personal experience a lot of companies in Switzerland are more conservative