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Is anyone shipping Universal Binaries for Mac? I thought most are shipping 2 versions, or just letting Rosetta handle things. Additionally, I don't think this i

Is anyone shipping Universal Binaries for Mac? I thought most are shipping 2 versions, or just letting Rosetta handle things. Additionally, I don't think this iteration of Rosetta is a "decade old", but rather, is a new product with the same name.

bombcar 5y ago
I see lots of "Universal Binaries" listed and I suspect few of them are PowerPC: /Applications/1Password 7.app/Contents/MacOS/1Password 7: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 - Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] [arm64] /Applications/1Password 7.app/Contents/MacOS/1Password 7 (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 /Applications/1Password 7.app/Contents/MacOS/1Password 7 (for architecture arm64): Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64
cwizou 5y ago
I think the breakdown is with native/non-native apps and specific build systems. Pretty much all the native apps that get updated for M1 are universal binaries. Xcode is (all things being relative) pretty good at making this work semi-transparently. The only instances where I see separate builds for x86/M1 is with non native apps, a good example that I saw just yesterday being Postman. I would guess either their build system is the culprit, or some libraries that they rely on. It's not systematic though so this is particular to those vendors, it could also be that they chose to do separate builds for other reasons, though it's not what Apple suggests developers do. Teams and Discord both have universal builds and are non-native, as counter examples to Postman. Another good example is that while VS Code [1] is universal, VS Codium [2] makes separate builds (those seem to have been posted in the last 12 hours, yay !), and this is mostly due to their build system [3]. This site is also a good resource that tells you what has native M1 support, and what still runs under Rosetta : https://isapplesiliconready.com/ https://isapplesiliconready.com/ [1]: https://code.visualstudio.com/Download https://code.visualstudio.com/Download [2]: https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/releases https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/releases [3]: https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/issues/597#issuecomment-1112877775 https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/issues/597#issuecomment...
msbarnett 5y ago
The _vast_ majority of 3rd party apps on my M1 Mac are Universal? Ableton, Alfred, Affinity Photo, 1password, Backblaze, Capture One, CLion, FastRawViewer, Firefox, Irident, Postico, SublimeText/Merge. The only notable non-Universal binaries are: Calibre (Intel-only) and Podman Desktop (Apple Silicon specific build)

bombcar 5y ago

I see lots of "Universal Binaries" listed and I suspect few of them are PowerPC: /Applications/1Password 7.app/Contents/MacOS/1Password 7: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 - Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] [arm64] /Applications/1Password 7.app/Contents/MacOS/1Password 7 (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 /Applications/1Password 7.app/Contents/MacOS/1Password 7 (for architecture arm64): Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64

cwizou 5y ago

I think the breakdown is with native/non-native apps and specific build systems. Pretty much all the native apps that get updated for M1 are universal binaries. Xcode is (all things being relative) pretty good at making this work semi-transparently. The only instances where I see separate builds for x86/M1 is with non native apps, a good example that I saw just yesterday being Postman. I would guess either their build system is the culprit, or some libraries that they rely on. It's not systematic though so this is particular to those vendors, it could also be that they chose to do separate builds for other reasons, though it's not what Apple suggests developers do. Teams and Discord both have universal builds and are non-native, as counter examples to Postman. Another good example is that while VS Code [1] is universal, VS Codium [2] makes separate builds (those seem to have been posted in the last 12 hours, yay !), and this is mostly due to their build system [3]. This site is also a good resource that tells you what has native M1 support, and what still runs under Rosetta : https://isapplesiliconready.com/ https://isapplesiliconready.com/ [1]: https://code.visualstudio.com/Download https://code.visualstudio.com/Download [2]: https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/releases https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/releases [3]: https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/issues/597#issuecomment-1112877775 https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium/issues/597#issuecomment...

msbarnett 5y ago

The _vast_ majority of 3rd party apps on my M1 Mac are Universal? Ableton, Alfred, Affinity Photo, 1password, Backblaze, Capture One, CLion, FastRawViewer, Firefox, Irident, Postico, SublimeText/Merge. The only notable non-Universal binaries are: Calibre (Intel-only) and Podman Desktop (Apple Silicon specific build)