I'll just mention that all my systems do run Ubuntu, but with Snap removed. It works just fine. Ubuntu does doing a lot of obnoxious things like snap, but they'

I'll just mention that all my systems do run Ubuntu, but with Snap removed. It works just fine. Ubuntu does doing a lot of obnoxious things like snap, but they're not mandatory. Removing snap is 5 minutes. Ubuntu has come to the threshold of making design decisions which would have forced me to switch off many times, but has never quite crossed that threshold. They've pushing a variety crappy cloud-based offerings. There were many half-start attempts to replace system components (display server, startup system, audio, etc.) with half-baked ill-designed options. Despite scary announcements, none of these actually came to pass as mandatory components, at least while they were half-baked bad idea stage. They're either dead, optional, or were incrementally improved to be usable before they were integrated to where they were necessary for Ubuntu to function. For me, I think the roughly hour or two I'd need to invest in getting a Debian working correctly on each machine is still less than the 5-minutes per Ubuntu bad idea I need to remove. Debian makes a great core system, and Ubuntu still does a pretty good job with providing a layer of polish around things like hardware support. So yeah, I wouldn't advise moving back until things break. If it ain't broken yet, don't pre-emptively fix it. If snap replaces apt, or becomes mandatory, I'll be gone. That's not on the horizon yet.