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I remember watching the universal disdain Americans shared for high finance after 2008 and even movements like Occupy Wall Street resonated with a lot more peop

I remember watching the universal disdain Americans shared for high finance after 2008 and even movements like Occupy Wall Street resonated with a lot more people than one would have predicted. Then, all of the sudden, a whole new field of social engineering algorithms are unleashed on the populace, convincing everyone that their neighbor is the true enemy.

rcpt 5y ago
Why do you think that OWS was killed by new "social engineering algorithms"? The US has had a strong anti-protest culture for decades. March in the street, for anything, and the response is near universal cynicism and derision of the "hippies". With OWS this was apparent with traditional news coverage that constantly focused on the most ridiculous looking protestors
- rgrieselhuber 5y ago
  OWS isn't the main point of my comment.
lampshades 5y ago
And now we're even teaching children which "group" they belong in, from the time they're in kindergarten, to further divide the populace so that we can be at war with each other instead of them.
MichaelMoser123 5y ago
things became quite, i think the main reason was that they fixed the economy, for a while. However you have a point, media is very potent factor; You see that in Russia, where the state has a monopoly on the press, and old TV managed to persuade a majority in necessity of this senseless war, which is going on right now. The new media thing is creating a kind of monopoly on information for your own tribe, because it trains everyone to discard any info that comes from the other side of the fence. So there is a strong element of social control here. (don't know if Mr. Musk will manage to change that, but he seems to be trying...)
- MichaelMoser123 5y ago
  ... actually you can escape the filter bubble: On twitter they have the 'list' feature, you can define your list of sources and switch between lists, however most users are probably not using this feature. You had a similar feature on google+, but that was a long time ago. Here is the documentation of the list feature on twitter: https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-lists https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-lists They should advertise this feature and make it easier to use, if you ask me...
_hcuq 4y ago
The greatest minds of our generation are engaged in the production of these social engineering algorithms.
- rgrieselhuber 4y ago
  All for a shot at owning a 900 sq ft million dollar house in the Bay Area.

rcpt 5y ago

Why do you think that OWS was killed by new "social engineering algorithms"? The US has had a strong anti-protest culture for decades. March in the street, for anything, and the response is near universal cynicism and derision of the "hippies". With OWS this was apparent with traditional news coverage that constantly focused on the most ridiculous looking protestors

rgrieselhuber 5y ago
OWS isn't the main point of my comment.

lampshades 5y ago

And now we're even teaching children which "group" they belong in, from the time they're in kindergarten, to further divide the populace so that we can be at war with each other instead of them.

MichaelMoser123 5y ago

things became quite, i think the main reason was that they fixed the economy, for a while. However you have a point, media is very potent factor; You see that in Russia, where the state has a monopoly on the press, and old TV managed to persuade a majority in necessity of this senseless war, which is going on right now. The new media thing is creating a kind of monopoly on information for your own tribe, because it trains everyone to discard any info that comes from the other side of the fence. So there is a strong element of social control here. (don't know if Mr. Musk will manage to change that, but he seems to be trying...)

MichaelMoser123 5y ago
... actually you can escape the filter bubble: On twitter they have the 'list' feature, you can define your list of sources and switch between lists, however most users are probably not using this feature. You had a similar feature on google+, but that was a long time ago. Here is the documentation of the list feature on twitter: https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-lists https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/twitter-lists They should advertise this feature and make it easier to use, if you ask me...

_hcuq 4y ago

The greatest minds of our generation are engaged in the production of these social engineering algorithms.

rgrieselhuber 4y ago
All for a shot at owning a 900 sq ft million dollar house in the Bay Area.