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> You claim to be more hard working and intelligent than him Dude, intelligence is not nearly as useful in this world as we are made to believe. And, you say

by tomc1985 4y ago

> You claim to be more hard working and intelligent than him Dude, intelligence is not nearly as useful in this world as we are made to believe. And, you say you are smarter than him? That automatically makes it so that I would never want to work under you. People that tend to waste cycles on comparing their intelligence to others tend to be insufferable, egotistical, and boring. (To say nothing of the fact that intelligence is largely incomparable.) Management need people that make good, obedient little minions for upper management. Who can make their bosses look good while simultaneously shielding the team from them. You don't have to be 'intelligent' to do that, in fact it might make the job harder. > I feel incredibly stupid. I am losing confidence in making good decisions. Why you gotta be so extra about it? You lost out. Big deal. Pick yourself up and move on to the next opportunity.

moonchrome 4y ago
>People that tend to waste cycles on comparing their intelligence to others tend to be insufferable, egotistical, and boring. You don't have to compare intelligence to notice that you're edit: r/smarter/more intelligent (or that others are r/smarter/more intelligent than you). Especially when you're working together with someone for a long time. After a while it's like knowing you're shorter/taller than someone - you won't notice and you might be wrong if the difference is small - but when it's a large difference it's just something you know even if you never consciously thought about it.
- tomc1985 4y ago
  I have never found a circumstance where those comparisons are actually useful in the sense that they can make me a better person. All they have ever done is make someone (usually me) feel better about themselves. Every time it has come up, the situation has been a trap of some kind And what is smarter anyway? Book smarts? Street smarts? Your coworker may not have intelligence in the same areas as you, but I bet there are areas in life where they will kick your ass What a lot of people are really asking is, 'how experienced is this person in the same areas that I am?'
  - moonchrome 4y ago
    I shouldn't have used the word smarter - I meant to say intelligent. I think intelligence is just "processing power", there are people that catch on faster, can evaluate more angles simultaneously, are able to wrestle with complex ideas - once you start working with people on new/hard problems you notice who struggles to keep up and who outpaces you.
    - tomc1985 4y ago
      Agreed, but I think many of the ways that manifests can be acquired with experience if you're looking at one thing. I think the idea we are both getting at is capacity for learning, or quick thinking, and for that you need to see that person perform in a suitable environment, which the workplace is probably not providing. And again, these are all components of intelligence but missing large parts of the bigger picture. What about the ability to make a point or debate well? Or charisma? Those are social skills, you might say -- social intelligence? So then is intelligence simply the sum of ones skills and ability to pick up new ones? Maybe, but then how does that apply to your specific situation? My point is that intelligence is probably undefinable. "I am better/more experienced/more capable than this person at X and Y" is probably what you should be saying to yourself instead.

moonchrome 4y ago

>People that tend to waste cycles on comparing their intelligence to others tend to be insufferable, egotistical, and boring. You don't have to compare intelligence to notice that you're edit: r/smarter/more intelligent (or that others are r/smarter/more intelligent than you). Especially when you're working together with someone for a long time. After a while it's like knowing you're shorter/taller than someone - you won't notice and you might be wrong if the difference is small - but when it's a large difference it's just something you know even if you never consciously thought about it.

tomc1985 4y ago
I have never found a circumstance where those comparisons are actually useful in the sense that they can make me a better person. All they have ever done is make someone (usually me) feel better about themselves. Every time it has come up, the situation has been a trap of some kind And what is smarter anyway? Book smarts? Street smarts? Your coworker may not have intelligence in the same areas as you, but I bet there are areas in life where they will kick your ass What a lot of people are really asking is, 'how experienced is this person in the same areas that I am?'
- moonchrome 4y ago
  I shouldn't have used the word smarter - I meant to say intelligent. I think intelligence is just "processing power", there are people that catch on faster, can evaluate more angles simultaneously, are able to wrestle with complex ideas - once you start working with people on new/hard problems you notice who struggles to keep up and who outpaces you.
  - tomc1985 4y ago
    Agreed, but I think many of the ways that manifests can be acquired with experience if you're looking at one thing. I think the idea we are both getting at is capacity for learning, or quick thinking, and for that you need to see that person perform in a suitable environment, which the workplace is probably not providing. And again, these are all components of intelligence but missing large parts of the bigger picture. What about the ability to make a point or debate well? Or charisma? Those are social skills, you might say -- social intelligence? So then is intelligence simply the sum of ones skills and ability to pick up new ones? Maybe, but then how does that apply to your specific situation? My point is that intelligence is probably undefinable. "I am better/more experienced/more capable than this person at X and Y" is probably what you should be saying to yourself instead.