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I think the biggest problem is putting _all_ masks in the same bucket. The selection criteria is too wide. I have used 'duck beak' ffp3 masks through several f

I think the biggest problem is putting _all_ masks in the same bucket. The selection criteria is too wide. I have used 'duck beak' ffp3 masks through several flights during peak pandemic, and I had to physically workout my chest muscles to take a full breath of air in. I have also bought disposable masks online that were paper mache level. Both cases are 'people wearing masks' but I can guarantee that these two masks are not having the same effect. We can argue logistics and feasibility of everyone using ffp3 masks, but claiming that masks don't have clear evidence is to ignore the whole physics of filtration.

qeternity 4y ago
And then you rub your eyes as you nod off for a nap on the plane. We know that airborne transmission has been a small piece of the puzzle. But masks are visible and so the only thing we could do for security theater. And we turned the response into this virtue signaling debate. Even this thread has people bending over backwards to defend their views...that's not how science works! I do not believe that masks _increase_ mortality. But I think it's pretty clear that masks have minimal, if any, impact on transmission.
- DoingIsLearning 4y ago
  > We know that airborne transmission has been a small piece of the puzzle. Do you have a quote for this claim? Everything I read is claiming the exact opposite, that authorities overstated the contact surface transmission and that the majority of SARS-COV2 infections occur through droplets or aerosol.
- lamontcg 4y ago
  > And we turned the response into this virtue signaling debate. By mentioning 'virtue signaling' you are virtue signaling that you share the views of a good chunk of the HN readership. Everyone now knows what side you lean towards, and can assume what affiliated views that you might have.
manwe150 4y ago
For what it is worth now, there a number of mask comparative analyses out there now (eg wirecutter) which measured the filtration and give recommendations on which masks are both easy to breathe through and good at filtering. It is not always the ones that are hardest to breathe through (though the counterfactual is generally true: being harder to breathe through generally corresponds to higher filtration)
kingofpandora 4y ago
Wow I can't even imagine a mask that is like papier mâché. Link to one of those so I can see what they look like?

qeternity 4y ago

And then you rub your eyes as you nod off for a nap on the plane. We know that airborne transmission has been a small piece of the puzzle. But masks are visible and so the only thing we could do for security theater. And we turned the response into this virtue signaling debate. Even this thread has people bending over backwards to defend their views...that's not how science works! I do not believe that masks _increase_ mortality. But I think it's pretty clear that masks have minimal, if any, impact on transmission.

DoingIsLearning 4y ago
> We know that airborne transmission has been a small piece of the puzzle. Do you have a quote for this claim? Everything I read is claiming the exact opposite, that authorities overstated the contact surface transmission and that the majority of SARS-COV2 infections occur through droplets or aerosol.
lamontcg 4y ago
> And we turned the response into this virtue signaling debate. By mentioning 'virtue signaling' you are virtue signaling that you share the views of a good chunk of the HN readership. Everyone now knows what side you lean towards, and can assume what affiliated views that you might have.

manwe150 4y ago

For what it is worth now, there a number of mask comparative analyses out there now (eg wirecutter) which measured the filtration and give recommendations on which masks are both easy to breathe through and good at filtering. It is not always the ones that are hardest to breathe through (though the counterfactual is generally true: being harder to breathe through generally corresponds to higher filtration)

kingofpandora 4y ago

Wow I can't even imagine a mask that is like papier mâché. Link to one of those so I can see what they look like?