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Care to elaborate? I'm curious about what exactly you mean by that.
by tener 4y ago
Care to elaborate? I'm curious about what exactly you mean by that.
- zdbrandon 4y agoThe same piece of advice can be life changing, completely irrelevant, or anywhere in between; depending on the life the recipient has lived before receiving it. So it’s natural that some readers will scroll through any list of advice and find little of use, while others are able to put the words to good use.
- yobbo 4y agoThe actionspace of super mario is {left, right, down, up} X { jump, shoot }. Meanwhile, lots of advice is "first kill those turtles, go through the castle, and save the princess. easy". "Only have good bosses ... Only work for role models" ... ? Goals should be communicated in terms of end states, but everyone already agrees on the goals. Advise needs to be actionable.
- tener 4y agoThanks, I understand now what you meant by actionspace. > this is the reason that lots of advice sounds banal. This is the part I'm not getting. Definition of `banal` is: > so lacking in originality as to be obvious and boring. Obviously, personal circumstances apply to every single piece of advice ever given to random strangers on the internet. For example, I don't even remember when was the last time I saw a street musician. Doesn't mean that the one-dollar thing is banal. It may be irrelevant to my life, but that is a totally different thing. It would be banal if the behavior suggested was an extremely common social norm... which it isn't, and some people argue the advice is wrong. Which is good! Discourse is healthy.
- grkvlt 4y ago> If you stop to listen to a musician or street performer for more than a minute, you owe them a dollar if i am a child, with no money, or am un- or underemployed with very little money in the form of disposable income, then this advice is not actually actionable. not to mention that it is also wrong - you do not owe the street performer anything, no matter how long you stop and listen for. they are not entitled to anything just because they made a choice to perform in a public place. and this is not to suggest i have never, or will not in future, donate to buskers etc. - but it is always an active choice...
- jstanley 4y agoIt's easily actionable: if you can't pay the dollar, don't listen to the music. (Or, ignore the advice, if you disagree. That's fine too! But that's not the fault of it being non-actionable).
- astura 4y agoKinda silly since buskers usually perform at places where people are usually anyway (such as a train platform) and I can't turn off my ears.
- wildmanx 4y ago"Hanging out somewhere where there happens to be music played" is quite different from "listening". The advice only applies to the latter.
- wildmanx 4y agoThe advice was aiming at the moral level. You missed that completely, unfortunately. > they are not entitled to anything just because they made a choice to perform in a public place. And you are making a choice of whether or not you support them if you found so much pleasure in listening to them that you chose to spend over a minute listening to them instead of walking past them. You are entitled to just move on. Whether it's the right thing to do is a different question and only for yourself to decide.
- grkvlt 4y agono, the bit about having no money was a response to a claim that the advice was 'actionable' and i pointed out a situation where in believed it was not actionable dute to practical financial constraints. however, my statement about entitlements of the performer being non existant along with the listener having no obligation to pay the performer because they stayed for some amount of time, was made on an moral level. i also believe it is a morally 'good' thing to compensate the performer if they provide you with entertainment, i just do not believe there is any obligation placed on you to do this by the performer. like you say, it is for me alone as the listener to decide. i objected to the use of the word 'owe' in the advice, basically. hopefully that's a bit clearer...