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Boundaries are good, but extortion and intimidation is not the way to do it. You can withhold candy but throwing it away is hurtful and cruel. Speaking as some

by dsego 5y ago

Boundaries are good, but extortion and intimidation is not the way to do it. You can withhold candy but throwing it away is hurtful and cruel. Speaking as someone who is currently dealing with a very disobedient 2-year old. In any case, to keep kids behaving on a car road trip, you need to keep them busy and take care of their basic needs, being still and strapped in the back seat is not fun.

andai 5y ago
I actively rebelled against attempts to control my behavior. I think this is a good character trait to have: it made me a pain in the ass as a kid, but a populace with such a trait would not tolerate government overreach for a single instant. I'd rather get into a lot of trouble than let someone control my life. Also, to expand on the cruel punishment thing (an extreme example but I believe it's just a more pathological manifestation of the same thing): my mother would sometimes break my things as punishment, for example toys or CDs that were gifts from friends. 15 years later, it still stings. All that taught me was that she was immoral (and possibly insane) which made me rather unreceptive to her future attempts to "educate" me.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  > : it made me a pain in the ass as a kid, but a populace with such a trait would not tolerate government overreach for a single instant. I'd rather get into a lot of trouble than let someone control my life. Education system does not teach science or life - it teaches compliance, obedience, to sit down, shut up and complete work by deadline
- dsego 5y ago
  > my mother would sometimes break my things as punishment, for example toys or CDs that were gifts from friends I'm sorry to hear that, it doesn't sound like healthy or grownup behavior. I recognize a lot of that in my own parents, I don't blame them, but a lot of their actions during my childhood I would now find petty or even emotionally abusive (characteristic of borderline or narcissism). They had their own problems I guess, their parents probably did worse things.

by dsego 5y ago

andai 5y ago

I actively rebelled against attempts to control my behavior. I think this is a good character trait to have: it made me a pain in the ass as a kid, but a populace with such a trait would not tolerate government overreach for a single instant. I'd rather get into a lot of trouble than let someone control my life. Also, to expand on the cruel punishment thing (an extreme example but I believe it's just a more pathological manifestation of the same thing): my mother would sometimes break my things as punishment, for example toys or CDs that were gifts from friends. 15 years later, it still stings. All that taught me was that she was immoral (and possibly insane) which made me rather unreceptive to her future attempts to "educate" me.

ClumsyPilot 5y ago
> : it made me a pain in the ass as a kid, but a populace with such a trait would not tolerate government overreach for a single instant. I'd rather get into a lot of trouble than let someone control my life. Education system does not teach science or life - it teaches compliance, obedience, to sit down, shut up and complete work by deadline
dsego 5y ago
> my mother would sometimes break my things as punishment, for example toys or CDs that were gifts from friends I'm sorry to hear that, it doesn't sound like healthy or grownup behavior. I recognize a lot of that in my own parents, I don't blame them, but a lot of their actions during my childhood I would now find petty or even emotionally abusive (characteristic of borderline or narcissism). They had their own problems I guess, their parents probably did worse things.