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The next time you try to enter or leave Japan after staying for 90 days, they would ask you how you are able to stay 3 months without working. If you cannot sho

The next time you try to enter or leave Japan after staying for 90 days, they would ask you how you are able to stay 3 months without working. If you cannot show significant savings, then you would get deported and banned for 10 years. Happens all the time.

Nextgrid 4y ago
Say that you're using PTO?
- chrisseaton 4y ago
  Lie to immigration? People in this thread are insane. Going to get yourselves banned from counties.
  - notch656a 4y ago
    I've been to many nations including for months and including illegally overstaying. No one gave one fuck to ask whether I was working not. The only people that have ever grilled me like this is my own country, the USA, where returning as a citizen the last time I entered I was forcibly taken to a hospital to be anally probed (with even a warrant, although after 16 hours they could not find a doctor to execute it) based on a wild and false accusation they thought I was a drug smuggler. Only the USA and a few other insane nations are dumb enough to pull these kind of stunts. Somewhere like Brazil/Paraguay/Mexico/Philippines/Iraq no one is gonna ask you if you worked remotely while on your way out. No one. Half the time they don't even bother to ask what you're doing while entering, they just stamp your passport and you're on your way. Japan may be different, but there is no way they're gonna deport you on your way out.
    - chrisseaton 4y ago
      Every non-European country I visit very specifically asks me ‘are you going to be working’ every time I visit. I think they do this for the quite clever reason that then if you work they can get you for lying to an official rather just for working.
      - notch656a 4y ago
        I'm sure some ask. The risk of being deported or caught seems incredibly low, especially if you pick a country in South America or southeast Asia. I cannot think of a nation there that ever asked me if I was working. When I was caught overstaying in Iraq they immigration guy was visibly pissed but he couldn't speak English so I juts handed him <fine for overstay>, and went on my way.
        ClumsyPilot 4y ago
        You were just visiting more chaotic places. All European cointries have records of your entry/leaving, and if you overstay you will likely end up with a lifetime travel ban. The only exception would be like a medical emergency.
        notch656a 4y ago
        Hasn't infamous 'hacker' Weev been hiding out in European nations/territories of Transnistria/Maldova/Ukraine for like 4 or 5 years now without any residence authorization?
    - renewiltord 4y ago
      Same experience, sans probing. I have also, interestingly, overstayed in the West including using a residence permit to enter that was no longer valid. Japan they checked my baggage, same smuggler thing, but I only had my host of bootleg (not really, I just like being equipped so I just get them from generics factories) antibiotics + pharma and they don't really care about those personal quantities.
kjksf 4y ago
Does it really happen all the time? Any references to this happening all the time? Because to me it seems like border patrol doesn't have the authority to check your bank account or demand that you "show significant savings". Sure they can refuse to let you in but does it really happen all the time?
- Symbiote 4y ago
  I've seen a student required to show a bank balance and withdraw sufficient money before being granted a tourist visa for a different country. (He was in front of me in the queue.) The UK requires some visitors to show bank statements when applying for a visa.
  - el-salvador 4y ago
    Germany for example, requires a "Blocked Bank Account" for certain type of student, work and other kinds of visas. This account is opened remotely from the students' home country in a German bank, before the visa applicstion. And savings cannot be withdrawn for a period of time. I had an acquaintance that studied in Germany that had a visa problem for withdrawing more money than allowed from his "Blocked bank account". https://www.fintiba.com/moving-to-germany/studying/requirements/blocked-account-for-students/ https://www.fintiba.com/moving-to-germany/studying/requireme...
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago
  You are showing a bit of naivete and entitlement - if you are visiting a foreign country, you often have to apply for a travel permit. If you are applying from Russia/China/Mongolia to UK/US they ask you for bank statements, evidence of having a stable job or holding any property in your home country, you travel itienary, and ask whether you are a person of good character. Lying on the application form results in a 10 uear or lifetime travel ban. After all that, when you arrive at the border, they ask questions and US border guards in particular may ask for access to your phone and laptop. So it does happen all the time, it's just thay typically rich tourists from America are subject to less scruitiny than folks from poorer or politically messier places
notch656a 4y ago
Lol they're not gonna deport you on your way out. I'd like to see one example of deportation orders for someone already at the airport to leave the country, purely based on accusation of having worked remotely in Japan.

Nextgrid 4y ago

Say that you're using PTO?

chrisseaton 4y ago
Lie to immigration? People in this thread are insane. Going to get yourselves banned from counties.
- notch656a 4y ago
  I've been to many nations including for months and including illegally overstaying. No one gave one fuck to ask whether I was working not. The only people that have ever grilled me like this is my own country, the USA, where returning as a citizen the last time I entered I was forcibly taken to a hospital to be anally probed (with even a warrant, although after 16 hours they could not find a doctor to execute it) based on a wild and false accusation they thought I was a drug smuggler. Only the USA and a few other insane nations are dumb enough to pull these kind of stunts. Somewhere like Brazil/Paraguay/Mexico/Philippines/Iraq no one is gonna ask you if you worked remotely while on your way out. No one. Half the time they don't even bother to ask what you're doing while entering, they just stamp your passport and you're on your way. Japan may be different, but there is no way they're gonna deport you on your way out.
  - chrisseaton 4y ago
    Every non-European country I visit very specifically asks me ‘are you going to be working’ every time I visit. I think they do this for the quite clever reason that then if you work they can get you for lying to an official rather just for working.
    - notch656a 4y ago
      I'm sure some ask. The risk of being deported or caught seems incredibly low, especially if you pick a country in South America or southeast Asia. I cannot think of a nation there that ever asked me if I was working. When I was caught overstaying in Iraq they immigration guy was visibly pissed but he couldn't speak English so I juts handed him <fine for overstay>, and went on my way.
      - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
        You were just visiting more chaotic places. All European cointries have records of your entry/leaving, and if you overstay you will likely end up with a lifetime travel ban. The only exception would be like a medical emergency.
        notch656a 4y ago
        Hasn't infamous 'hacker' Weev been hiding out in European nations/territories of Transnistria/Maldova/Ukraine for like 4 or 5 years now without any residence authorization?
  - renewiltord 4y ago
    Same experience, sans probing. I have also, interestingly, overstayed in the West including using a residence permit to enter that was no longer valid. Japan they checked my baggage, same smuggler thing, but I only had my host of bootleg (not really, I just like being equipped so I just get them from generics factories) antibiotics + pharma and they don't really care about those personal quantities.

kjksf 4y ago

Does it really happen all the time? Any references to this happening all the time? Because to me it seems like border patrol doesn't have the authority to check your bank account or demand that you "show significant savings". Sure they can refuse to let you in but does it really happen all the time?

Symbiote 4y ago
I've seen a student required to show a bank balance and withdraw sufficient money before being granted a tourist visa for a different country. (He was in front of me in the queue.) The UK requires some visitors to show bank statements when applying for a visa.
- el-salvador 4y ago
  Germany for example, requires a "Blocked Bank Account" for certain type of student, work and other kinds of visas. This account is opened remotely from the students' home country in a German bank, before the visa applicstion. And savings cannot be withdrawn for a period of time. I had an acquaintance that studied in Germany that had a visa problem for withdrawing more money than allowed from his "Blocked bank account". https://www.fintiba.com/moving-to-germany/studying/requirements/blocked-account-for-students/ https://www.fintiba.com/moving-to-germany/studying/requireme...
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
You are showing a bit of naivete and entitlement - if you are visiting a foreign country, you often have to apply for a travel permit. If you are applying from Russia/China/Mongolia to UK/US they ask you for bank statements, evidence of having a stable job or holding any property in your home country, you travel itienary, and ask whether you are a person of good character. Lying on the application form results in a 10 uear or lifetime travel ban. After all that, when you arrive at the border, they ask questions and US border guards in particular may ask for access to your phone and laptop. So it does happen all the time, it's just thay typically rich tourists from America are subject to less scruitiny than folks from poorer or politically messier places

notch656a 4y ago

Lol they're not gonna deport you on your way out. I'd like to see one example of deportation orders for someone already at the airport to leave the country, purely based on accusation of having worked remotely in Japan.