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This only works if you are holder of passport of the origin country. As a third world country national, I cannot legally work anywhere except the country I got

This only works if you are holder of passport of the origin country. As a third world country national, I cannot legally work anywhere except the country I got my work visa. PS: Even if company is multinational corporation.

frederikvs 4y ago
Tangent, but it turns out terms like "third world" are no longer accurate. If memory serves, this is explained in the book Factfulness. A highly recommended read, by the way. A few decades ago, there was a group of wealthy countries, a group of poor countries, and a large gap between them. Back then it made sense to see them as 2 separate groups, first world and third. Right now however, they're no longer separate groups - there's a continuous spectrum. A growing number of countries have been crawling out of poverty. Some countries are rich, some are poor, and some are in between. They're no longer separate groups. (This of course does not mean that there isn't a poverty problem in the world. Just that "third world" no longer accurately describes the situation.)
- strangeattractr 4y ago
  Weren't the terms used to connote alliance with the US (first world) or the USSR (second world) and third world meant non-aligned?
  - bryanrasmussen 4y ago
    so, the poster is wrong on the specifics but correct on the general idea that the term third world no longer makes much sense.
  - frederikvs 4y ago
    I stand corrected, thank you! To clarify, I misremembered Factfulness. The book actually talks about "developed" versus "developing". In my memory I jumbled that up with "third world".
- helge9210 4y ago
  First world -- NATO member states Second world -- Warsaw Pact member states Third world -- all other states
  - b112 4y ago
    Some dude coined these terms, and they caught on for a while during the cold war. Third world typically being of little interest to first and second, and often poor. So eventually "third world" came to just mean "poor countries". After all, there has now been as much time, post WWII, without the cold war, as there was with one!
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  - midasuni 4y ago
    Which would make Ireland, Sweden, Switzerland, Australia, Japan etc third world. That’s not how the term is used.
- jdenning 4y ago
  I think you're wrong about this -- as I understood it, the term is a relic of the cold war. "First World" nations were aligned with the US, "Second World" were communist or communist-aligned, and "Third World" were not associated with either. After the collapse of the USSR "Third World" became primarily associated with impoverished nations.
  - DonHopkins 4y ago
    And Trump was trying to convert the US into a "second world" nation.
renewiltord 4y ago
No one’s gonna know if you are a tourist in Japan for 90 d and you work there remotely. Literally no one. No one will know.
- umutseven92 4y ago
  The next time you try to enter or leave Japan after staying for 90 days, they would ask you how you are able to stay 3 months without working. If you cannot show significant savings, then you would get deported and banned for 10 years. Happens all the time.
  - Nextgrid 4y ago
    Say that you're using PTO?
    - chrisseaton 4y ago
      Lie to immigration? People in this thread are insane. Going to get yourselves banned from counties.
      - notch656a 4y ago
        I've been to many nations including for months and including illegally overstaying. No one gave one fuck to ask whether I was working not. The only people that have ever grilled me like this is my own country, the USA, where returning as a citizen the last time I entered I was forcibly taken to a hospital to be anally probed (with even a warrant, although after 16 hours they could not find a doctor to execute it) based on a wild and false accusation they thought I was a drug smuggler. Only the USA and a few other insane nations are dumb enough to pull these kind of stunts. Somewhere like Brazil/Paraguay/Mexico/Philippines/Iraq no one is gonna ask you if you worked remotely while on your way out. No one. Half the time they don't even bother to ask what you're doing while entering, they just stamp your passport and you're on your way. Japan may be different, but there is no way they're gonna deport you on your way out.
krzyk 4y ago
Laws are still written for those doing manual labor. What's the difference if I do some work in the evening at home or during my holiday in e.g. Greece? The only added cost in given country is energy. Problems start to appear if I get sick, but that should be on myself - and in most cases (for EU citizen) it is most appropriate to return home to cure/hospitalize (unless it is something needing immediate help).
- CorrectHorseBat 4y ago
  There are also other issues. What with labor laws? Should you follow the laws from the country from where you work or where the company is located? Companies would just get a post box in the country with the weakest labour laws. The simplest solution stays that the laws where you physically are apply.
  - mensetmanusman 4y ago
    This already happens, that’s why every company is incorporated in Delaware.

frederikvs 4y ago

Tangent, but it turns out terms like "third world" are no longer accurate. If memory serves, this is explained in the book Factfulness. A highly recommended read, by the way. A few decades ago, there was a group of wealthy countries, a group of poor countries, and a large gap between them. Back then it made sense to see them as 2 separate groups, first world and third. Right now however, they're no longer separate groups - there's a continuous spectrum. A growing number of countries have been crawling out of poverty. Some countries are rich, some are poor, and some are in between. They're no longer separate groups. (This of course does not mean that there isn't a poverty problem in the world. Just that "third world" no longer accurately describes the situation.)

strangeattractr 4y ago
Weren't the terms used to connote alliance with the US (first world) or the USSR (second world) and third world meant non-aligned?
- bryanrasmussen 4y ago
  so, the poster is wrong on the specifics but correct on the general idea that the term third world no longer makes much sense.
- frederikvs 4y ago
  I stand corrected, thank you! To clarify, I misremembered Factfulness. The book actually talks about "developed" versus "developing". In my memory I jumbled that up with "third world".
helge9210 4y ago
First world -- NATO member states Second world -- Warsaw Pact member states Third world -- all other states
- b112 4y ago
  Some dude coined these terms, and they caught on for a while during the cold war. Third world typically being of little interest to first and second, and often poor. So eventually "third world" came to just mean "poor countries". After all, there has now been as much time, post WWII, without the cold war, as there was with one!
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- midasuni 4y ago
  Which would make Ireland, Sweden, Switzerland, Australia, Japan etc third world. That’s not how the term is used.
jdenning 4y ago
I think you're wrong about this -- as I understood it, the term is a relic of the cold war. "First World" nations were aligned with the US, "Second World" were communist or communist-aligned, and "Third World" were not associated with either. After the collapse of the USSR "Third World" became primarily associated with impoverished nations.
- DonHopkins 4y ago
  And Trump was trying to convert the US into a "second world" nation.

renewiltord 4y ago

No one’s gonna know if you are a tourist in Japan for 90 d and you work there remotely. Literally no one. No one will know.

umutseven92 4y ago
The next time you try to enter or leave Japan after staying for 90 days, they would ask you how you are able to stay 3 months without working. If you cannot show significant savings, then you would get deported and banned for 10 years. Happens all the time.
- Nextgrid 4y ago
  Say that you're using PTO?
  - chrisseaton 4y ago
    Lie to immigration? People in this thread are insane. Going to get yourselves banned from counties.
    - notch656a 4y ago
      I've been to many nations including for months and including illegally overstaying. No one gave one fuck to ask whether I was working not. The only people that have ever grilled me like this is my own country, the USA, where returning as a citizen the last time I entered I was forcibly taken to a hospital to be anally probed (with even a warrant, although after 16 hours they could not find a doctor to execute it) based on a wild and false accusation they thought I was a drug smuggler. Only the USA and a few other insane nations are dumb enough to pull these kind of stunts. Somewhere like Brazil/Paraguay/Mexico/Philippines/Iraq no one is gonna ask you if you worked remotely while on your way out. No one. Half the time they don't even bother to ask what you're doing while entering, they just stamp your passport and you're on your way. Japan may be different, but there is no way they're gonna deport you on your way out.

krzyk 4y ago

Laws are still written for those doing manual labor. What's the difference if I do some work in the evening at home or during my holiday in e.g. Greece? The only added cost in given country is energy. Problems start to appear if I get sick, but that should be on myself - and in most cases (for EU citizen) it is most appropriate to return home to cure/hospitalize (unless it is something needing immediate help).

CorrectHorseBat 4y ago
There are also other issues. What with labor laws? Should you follow the laws from the country from where you work or where the company is located? Companies would just get a post box in the country with the weakest labour laws. The simplest solution stays that the laws where you physically are apply.
- mensetmanusman 4y ago
  This already happens, that’s why every company is incorporated in Delaware.