Debian vs. Ubuntu is basically the same these days. Ubuntu is 98% just pulling from the Debian upstream. There are a few apps that need to be more bleeding edge

Debian vs. Ubuntu is basically the same these days. Ubuntu is 98% just pulling from the Debian upstream. There are a few apps that need to be more bleeding edge, but to me Debian is just a "stable" Ubuntu. Without Canonical drama (just Debian drama). If you're used to Ubuntu, transition to Debian or another Deb-based distro is pretty much invisible. What few things you may notice are the places where Ubuntu went off-roading and once the transition is made, it ends up more mainstream anyhow. So the I end up even more pissed off at canonical. RHEL has an army of FTEs busy backporting patches to 5+ year old baselines. So it's buggy, quirky, AND perpetually out of date. But "stable" - meaning always and perpetually so, not meaning secure or runs well. The key thing is that those "volunteers" are doing the lions' share of the work for all Linux. RHEL and Canonical's (and Oracle and etc...) contribution and value added is poor. All those FTEs are being paid to do things you don't need and don't want that screw up what was better off without them - but Enterprise!