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Watching others burn books you hold sacred is one of the costs of admission to western civilization. Certainly the French have had to watch whole churches burn.

Watching others burn books you hold sacred is one of the costs of admission to western civilization. Certainly the French have had to watch whole churches burn. If you're unable to be civilized there are plenty of places where this sort of response is acceptable. Perhaps a draw the prophet contest next.

Gnob 4y ago
>If you're unable to be civilized there are plenty of places where this sort of response is acceptable. I think you are misunderstanding what being civilized means. being civilized or not has literally nothing to have with secularism or religion, you trying to make it equal to atheism is just gaslighting. and people are going to get out, nobody is fancying your nazi crap under "Freedom of speech". people have been getting out of france, and soon will be getting out of sweden and to hell with your freedoms. You can have all the cuckery you want, just keep it inside your borders, and we will die or find a way to live holding to our religion and dignity, and to teach our kids to do so too. one last thing, Christianity isn't Islam, period. The Muslims didn't commit war crimes, try to ethnically cleanse people or whatnot. They lived in peace with other nations and their war ethics are far better than yours. and had peace treaties and were pretty civilized, the only difference was, they were not cucks they would defend their religion and principles and honour and would die for it. and cuckery != civility Muslims are commanded to be civilised and well behaved, go to the nearest mosque in your area, make up a reasonable or even unreasonable question about Islam, just to see how people act, do they bark or bite or are they civilised and merely hold their beliefs very dear to their hearts, you have to check for yourself, because who knows, they might actually be savages.
- AvocadoPanic 4y ago
  I made no religious requirements for civilization only behavioral. You can't riot when you perceive insults to you religion or ethnicity and be civilized in the west. It's not tolerated behavior. This is how we manage our multipolar societies with a variety of stakeholders. This is a feature, just because you don't see or understand the purpose does not mean it serves no purpose. With out this we could go back to killing catholics for their instance on synergism and semipelagianism instead of sola fide.
  - Gnob 4y ago
    >You can't riot when you perceive insults to you religion or ethnicity and be civilized in the west. It's not tolerated behavior. This is how we manage our multipolar societies with a variety of stakeholders. I am not pro riots if they've been out of the blue like that. but I don't think any news media have mentioned the details of the escalation and I am not buying into any story the Swedish media / police / government pushes. >This is a feature, just because you don't see or understand the purpose does not mean it serves no purpose. I am aware a civil society doesn't work like that, but I would assume the police started the aggressive actions, in such a case I think it's justified. because that's what people do in a civil society when the police and the government stands against them. The same way you can get fined or taken to jail if you mock national symbols of some countries like France for example. the only difference is that the first is done by people and the second is done by the legal system, which is also people, but their actions are absolutely morally justified as being 'lawful'. I don't condone riots unless they're systematic, don't harm innocents, and are merely done to cost the government for their actions and are a sign of protesting. That's my personal stand on the subject and I think it's pretty much Islamic as people aren't encouraged to be chaotic or savages in Islam. If you do wonder: How can we manage these savages? just let them alone in peace, stay respectful ( not even to them just to their religion ) and if you have any reasonable question and by any I mean literally "any" just ask it, nobody is going to attack you or hurt you by any means, quite the opposite, if you are attacked they might come and help to stop it. What's the secret sauce? you just understand that a holy book is called a holy book for a reason, and the same way you are ready to die for your values, people and nation they are ready to die for their religion. find that so hard to do, vote to pass a bill for their mass deportation and done. or sign a petition and show them that the majority refuse them staying in the country and I think people will gladly leave, if they don't, back to the first solution. then you can do whatever you like in your own country but please don't export your culture by any means, talk about mutual respect or human rights or draw fancy images of the west to these people, respect that end of the deal pretty well, and done. no more savages causing you any troubles.
    - AvocadoPanic 4y ago
      Happy to hear you consider mass deportation a solution. No, there is no moral justification in modern western civilization for religious or sectarian violence. We are nations of laws, the moral path is to work in the system to change the law if you feel it's unjust. Again, this is cost of admission to western civilization.

Gnob 4y ago

>If you're unable to be civilized there are plenty of places where this sort of response is acceptable. I think you are misunderstanding what being civilized means. being civilized or not has literally nothing to have with secularism or religion, you trying to make it equal to atheism is just gaslighting. and people are going to get out, nobody is fancying your nazi crap under "Freedom of speech". people have been getting out of france, and soon will be getting out of sweden and to hell with your freedoms. You can have all the cuckery you want, just keep it inside your borders, and we will die or find a way to live holding to our religion and dignity, and to teach our kids to do so too. one last thing, Christianity isn't Islam, period. The Muslims didn't commit war crimes, try to ethnically cleanse people or whatnot. They lived in peace with other nations and their war ethics are far better than yours. and had peace treaties and were pretty civilized, the only difference was, they were not cucks they would defend their religion and principles and honour and would die for it. and cuckery != civility Muslims are commanded to be civilised and well behaved, go to the nearest mosque in your area, make up a reasonable or even unreasonable question about Islam, just to see how people act, do they bark or bite or are they civilised and merely hold their beliefs very dear to their hearts, you have to check for yourself, because who knows, they might actually be savages.

AvocadoPanic 4y ago
I made no religious requirements for civilization only behavioral. You can't riot when you perceive insults to you religion or ethnicity and be civilized in the west. It's not tolerated behavior. This is how we manage our multipolar societies with a variety of stakeholders. This is a feature, just because you don't see or understand the purpose does not mean it serves no purpose. With out this we could go back to killing catholics for their instance on synergism and semipelagianism instead of sola fide.
- Gnob 4y ago
  >You can't riot when you perceive insults to you religion or ethnicity and be civilized in the west. It's not tolerated behavior. This is how we manage our multipolar societies with a variety of stakeholders. I am not pro riots if they've been out of the blue like that. but I don't think any news media have mentioned the details of the escalation and I am not buying into any story the Swedish media / police / government pushes. >This is a feature, just because you don't see or understand the purpose does not mean it serves no purpose. I am aware a civil society doesn't work like that, but I would assume the police started the aggressive actions, in such a case I think it's justified. because that's what people do in a civil society when the police and the government stands against them. The same way you can get fined or taken to jail if you mock national symbols of some countries like France for example. the only difference is that the first is done by people and the second is done by the legal system, which is also people, but their actions are absolutely morally justified as being 'lawful'. I don't condone riots unless they're systematic, don't harm innocents, and are merely done to cost the government for their actions and are a sign of protesting. That's my personal stand on the subject and I think it's pretty much Islamic as people aren't encouraged to be chaotic or savages in Islam. If you do wonder: How can we manage these savages? just let them alone in peace, stay respectful ( not even to them just to their religion ) and if you have any reasonable question and by any I mean literally "any" just ask it, nobody is going to attack you or hurt you by any means, quite the opposite, if you are attacked they might come and help to stop it. What's the secret sauce? you just understand that a holy book is called a holy book for a reason, and the same way you are ready to die for your values, people and nation they are ready to die for their religion. find that so hard to do, vote to pass a bill for their mass deportation and done. or sign a petition and show them that the majority refuse them staying in the country and I think people will gladly leave, if they don't, back to the first solution. then you can do whatever you like in your own country but please don't export your culture by any means, talk about mutual respect or human rights or draw fancy images of the west to these people, respect that end of the deal pretty well, and done. no more savages causing you any troubles.
  - AvocadoPanic 4y ago
    Happy to hear you consider mass deportation a solution. No, there is no moral justification in modern western civilization for religious or sectarian violence. We are nations of laws, the moral path is to work in the system to change the law if you feel it's unjust. Again, this is cost of admission to western civilization.