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Interesting idea however I can't see many practical uses for this ... how often do you really need to search through the text of something you browsed some time

Interesting idea however I can't see many practical uses for this ... how often do you really need to search through the text of something you browsed some time ago and would it really offset the disk-space cost? I personally would have benefited from this on a few occasions however SQL+title-keywords+timestamps were effective enough and it's a rare occurrence. And if you need to archive something, why do it locally when there are projects like the Wayback machine (centralized is an argument against it I suppose), or why do it for everything?

aryamaan 4y ago
I want to do for the tweets all the time.
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graderjs 4y ago
Everyone is different. Sometimes even just saving someone that inconvenience and time and stress in that edge case where like you have this bookmark that you know that you had or this page that you visited but you can't find it again through a search engine, sometimes just saving people the headache of going through that is a really valuable thing like even if it only occurs a couple of times per year. Personally I couldn't understand why people were so into this project when I created it. I didn't understand the potential uses when I created it. I've liked that people have shown me, and also that I've had to market this way less than my other products. I created it as like you know a technical proof of concept kind of hack because I wanted to see if it was possible and then I kind of discovered that there were all these like archive nuts who were really into archiving. And then over time I started to think well sometimes I've got a bookmark but I can't remember how to find it and I couldn't find it in in the main search engine but I knew that I bookmarked it somewhere but I can't identify it from the title search. So having a full text search over the page content like a personal local search engine I thought it was going to be useful. But the main cool thing I think is the fact that you know you can have pages running as if they're on the internet when you're offline. So on the plane say you can have all of this you know mdn stuff archived all of these useful resources useful documents and then you can be running on the plane you don't have to use the Wi-Fi but you can have this like offline internet so you can keep working. That's me and my perspective maybe let me finish with the words of someone else who commented here just a little while ago but then deleted the comment, but I thought it was a really good perspective so I'll share it below > I thought the same thing 10 years ago. I have(had?) many thousands of bookmarks collected over 10 years. All of the most interesting things I ever read. Imagine my disappointment when I eventually realized most of them are now gone. Site is gone, URL is changed, videos taken down (so many of them it's amazing), websites weren't properly archived etc. > I tried to curl all my bookmarks for a half-assed solution but dynamic loading and unusable content presentation without running all js and saving dependencies, timestamps, replies etc makes it impossible. Even worse, it's impossible to discover something relevant when there is no search function. What you get is the page title and a URL. Usually both of them useless. I tried categorizing them and adding comments but that was a lot of work and led to me deleting stuff that are hard to categorize. I'm not a professional programmer and I'm definitely not fully aware of how modern websites work (particularly on the front end). > But if someone provided a locally run telemetry-free open-source (so it's auditable) searchable archive-as-you-browse tool that legitimately works reliably and with some kind of hard (technical) guarantee that it won't break with the next browser update, I'd pay good money for it.
- DoryMinh 4y ago
  tbh, it's easier to find stuff on Google than in my local storage.
  - graderjs 4y ago
    Desktop file search sucks. But I think you mean you don't have trouble finding pages you've visited before just using a search engine. That's good but that's not everyone's experience. Sometimes you're like oh what's that page but you just can't find a way back to it because you didn't discover it through a search engine originally. You discovered it through some recommended article on some other website or you discovered it through social media or someone sent you a link. And you can't remember where you saw it but you know you saw it and there was something in there that you wanted, but you can't find it through search because you've never actually searched for it before, you tried to search it now but it didn't work, and sometimes that happens. That's a real thing that happens. If you think about it around the world like if this happens to you say four times a year and there's you know 3 billion people online that's happening a lot of times (hundreds of millions of times) every day and you could save a lot of time for people if there was some solution to this. Your experience is valid, and I get if you've never experienced that and that's cool, that's a good thing--that's great!--but that's not everyone's experience. And there's a lot of cases for me where this has happened and I found it really annoying you know like I couldn't find something that I know that I visited and it's really annoying because you try and find it and it takes longer than you think it should, and sometimes you can't find it at all it's like the word that's on the tip of your tongue, but you just don't get it. I definitely think it is a pain point, that is a market opportunity.

aryamaan 4y ago

I want to do for the tweets all the time.

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graderjs 4y ago

Everyone is different. Sometimes even just saving someone that inconvenience and time and stress in that edge case where like you have this bookmark that you know that you had or this page that you visited but you can't find it again through a search engine, sometimes just saving people the headache of going through that is a really valuable thing like even if it only occurs a couple of times per year. Personally I couldn't understand why people were so into this project when I created it. I didn't understand the potential uses when I created it. I've liked that people have shown me, and also that I've had to market this way less than my other products. I created it as like you know a technical proof of concept kind of hack because I wanted to see if it was possible and then I kind of discovered that there were all these like archive nuts who were really into archiving. And then over time I started to think well sometimes I've got a bookmark but I can't remember how to find it and I couldn't find it in in the main search engine but I knew that I bookmarked it somewhere but I can't identify it from the title search. So having a full text search over the page content like a personal local search engine I thought it was going to be useful. But the main cool thing I think is the fact that you know you can have pages running as if they're on the internet when you're offline. So on the plane say you can have all of this you know mdn stuff archived all of these useful resources useful documents and then you can be running on the plane you don't have to use the Wi-Fi but you can have this like offline internet so you can keep working. That's me and my perspective maybe let me finish with the words of someone else who commented here just a little while ago but then deleted the comment, but I thought it was a really good perspective so I'll share it below > I thought the same thing 10 years ago. I have(had?) many thousands of bookmarks collected over 10 years. All of the most interesting things I ever read. Imagine my disappointment when I eventually realized most of them are now gone. Site is gone, URL is changed, videos taken down (so many of them it's amazing), websites weren't properly archived etc. > I tried to curl all my bookmarks for a half-assed solution but dynamic loading and unusable content presentation without running all js and saving dependencies, timestamps, replies etc makes it impossible. Even worse, it's impossible to discover something relevant when there is no search function. What you get is the page title and a URL. Usually both of them useless. I tried categorizing them and adding comments but that was a lot of work and led to me deleting stuff that are hard to categorize. I'm not a professional programmer and I'm definitely not fully aware of how modern websites work (particularly on the front end). > But if someone provided a locally run telemetry-free open-source (so it's auditable) searchable archive-as-you-browse tool that legitimately works reliably and with some kind of hard (technical) guarantee that it won't break with the next browser update, I'd pay good money for it.

DoryMinh 4y ago
tbh, it's easier to find stuff on Google than in my local storage.
- graderjs 4y ago
  Desktop file search sucks. But I think you mean you don't have trouble finding pages you've visited before just using a search engine. That's good but that's not everyone's experience. Sometimes you're like oh what's that page but you just can't find a way back to it because you didn't discover it through a search engine originally. You discovered it through some recommended article on some other website or you discovered it through social media or someone sent you a link. And you can't remember where you saw it but you know you saw it and there was something in there that you wanted, but you can't find it through search because you've never actually searched for it before, you tried to search it now but it didn't work, and sometimes that happens. That's a real thing that happens. If you think about it around the world like if this happens to you say four times a year and there's you know 3 billion people online that's happening a lot of times (hundreds of millions of times) every day and you could save a lot of time for people if there was some solution to this. Your experience is valid, and I get if you've never experienced that and that's cool, that's a good thing--that's great!--but that's not everyone's experience. And there's a lot of cases for me where this has happened and I found it really annoying you know like I couldn't find something that I know that I visited and it's really annoying because you try and find it and it takes longer than you think it should, and sometimes you can't find it at all it's like the word that's on the tip of your tongue, but you just don't get it. I definitely think it is a pain point, that is a market opportunity.