Agreed. I loved watching their dev logs back in high school because they were doing things in physics and combat that no one else was. But it never got over tha

Agreed. I loved watching their dev logs back in high school because they were doing things in physics and combat that no one else was. But it never got over that hump that separates "cool physics engine" from "interesting game concept". But my optimistic hope is that David Rosen walked for someone else to fly. Like Infiniminer -> Minecraft.