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Just go with Debian bro. Saves you the hassle and it’s the same thing with less Conanical.

rubyist5eva 5y ago
Debian is wonderful but I’m not sure how I feel about their LTS support basically being only volunteers. As opposed to Ubuntu or Redhat that have FTE doing support.
- fargle 5y ago
  Debian vs. Ubuntu is basically the same these days. Ubuntu is 98% just pulling from the Debian upstream. There are a few apps that need to be more bleeding edge, but to me Debian is just a "stable" Ubuntu. Without Canonical drama (just Debian drama). If you're used to Ubuntu, transition to Debian or another Deb-based distro is pretty much invisible. What few things you may notice are the places where Ubuntu went off-roading and once the transition is made, it ends up more mainstream anyhow. So the I end up even more pissed off at canonical. RHEL has an army of FTEs busy backporting patches to 5+ year old baselines. So it's buggy, quirky, AND perpetually out of date. But "stable" - meaning always and perpetually so, not meaning secure or runs well. The key thing is that those "volunteers" are doing the lions' share of the work for all Linux. RHEL and Canonical's (and Oracle and etc...) contribution and value added is poor. All those FTEs are being paid to do things you don't need and don't want that screw up what was better off without them - but Enterprise!
  - rubyist5eva 5y ago
    This is a great explanation, thanks!
bigpeopleareold 5y ago
I kept my work computer on Ubuntu while testing Debian stable on my personal one, which I allow myself to make mistakes on. I did this because some snap packages were flaky for me (it's been awhile, I don't remember what it was.) Debian stable is quite stable. :D The only bad time I had was caused by me trying to move to Debian testing - KDE would keep crashing :) Given this experience, I feel like moving everything that needs to be stable onto Debian and finally get off of Ubuntu.

Debian is wonderful but I’m not sure how I feel about their LTS support basically being only volunteers. As opposed to Ubuntu or Redhat that have FTE doing support.

fargle 5y ago
Debian vs. Ubuntu is basically the same these days. Ubuntu is 98% just pulling from the Debian upstream. There are a few apps that need to be more bleeding edge, but to me Debian is just a "stable" Ubuntu. Without Canonical drama (just Debian drama). If you're used to Ubuntu, transition to Debian or another Deb-based distro is pretty much invisible. What few things you may notice are the places where Ubuntu went off-roading and once the transition is made, it ends up more mainstream anyhow. So the I end up even more pissed off at canonical. RHEL has an army of FTEs busy backporting patches to 5+ year old baselines. So it's buggy, quirky, AND perpetually out of date. But "stable" - meaning always and perpetually so, not meaning secure or runs well. The key thing is that those "volunteers" are doing the lions' share of the work for all Linux. RHEL and Canonical's (and Oracle and etc...) contribution and value added is poor. All those FTEs are being paid to do things you don't need and don't want that screw up what was better off without them - but Enterprise!
- rubyist5eva 5y ago
  This is a great explanation, thanks!

bigpeopleareold 5y ago

I kept my work computer on Ubuntu while testing Debian stable on my personal one, which I allow myself to make mistakes on. I did this because some snap packages were flaky for me (it's been awhile, I don't remember what it was.) Debian stable is quite stable. :D The only bad time I had was caused by me trying to move to Debian testing - KDE would keep crashing :) Given this experience, I feel like moving everything that needs to be stable onto Debian and finally get off of Ubuntu.