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Actually I think your comment better represents sloppy political thinking and is part of the reason as to why we have these problems. You ignore the no cash ba

Actually I think your comment better represents sloppy political thinking and is part of the reason as to why we have these problems. You ignore the no cash bail, drug decriminalization, and lax policing policies which don't just increase problems from the homeless, but others as well. Progressive policies incentivize criminal behavior, period. Most homeless people have mental illness or drug problems. They don't need cheaper housing or to be ignored and stepped over, they need mental illness programs and rehab programs. End no cash bail, end decriminalization (making it legal is fine), enforce public decency (no needles in the park, no shitting/pissing in the streets, no flashing people). These things weren't problems in Nashville before progressive policies and relaxed enforcement. Homelessness existed before then, it's not caused by homelessness, it's caused by leftists. Be an adult and enforce the existing rules or we can't live in a society.

juve1996 4y ago
Where is the statistical evidence of this phenomenon? Yes I've heard the talk points that Joe Rogan has said. But where is the evidence that these policies have led to these issues? Places like Texas have a high homeless population too, and many southern states have huge drug problems.
- hunterb123 4y ago
  Do you need a study that being lax on crime will incentivize more crime? It's a well known effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory Continue to vote for policies that make your city a hell hole. I don't really care anymore, I don't live there.
  - juve1996 4y ago
    The "criticism" section is on that article and has many objections. It is not accepted fact. > It has also been argued that rates of major crimes also dropped in many other US cities during the 1990s, both those that had adopted broken windows policing and those that had not.[41] In the winter 2006 edition of the University of Chicago Law Review, Bernard Harcourt and Jens Ludwig looked at the later Department of Housing and Urban Development program that rehoused inner-city project tenants in New York into more-orderly neighborhoods.[25] The broken windows theory would suggest that these tenants would commit less crime once moved because of the more stable conditions on the streets. However, Harcourt and Ludwig found that the tenants continued to commit crime at the same rate. Still waiting on real evidence of causation.
    - hunterb123 4y ago
      Alright, people are all good, incentives don't exist, and there's no reason to enforce laws. Have fun on the streets in your shithole city! Just remember it's made possible by voters like you! Remember to step over the shit and broken glass, but don't worry the next person won't dare to shit in the same spot! I don't really care if you believe broken window theory, I don't live around your policies.
      - juve1996 4y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
        hunterb123 4y ago
      - slater 4y ago
        "When the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser"
        hunterb123 4y ago
        Did I slander him? I criticized the policies he votes for and his thought process. I did not slander him as a person, I criticized his way of thinking. I did insult his hypothetical city, but we're discussing the cause as to why cities are shitholes, it's not slander when it's true. He wants proof that being lax on crime perpetuates crime, yet ignores decades of basic criminology due to a wikipedia criticism section with no substance. Words have specific definitions, not what you want to stretch them to to make your snarky point.

juve1996 4y ago

Where is the statistical evidence of this phenomenon? Yes I've heard the talk points that Joe Rogan has said. But where is the evidence that these policies have led to these issues? Places like Texas have a high homeless population too, and many southern states have huge drug problems.

hunterb123 4y ago
Do you need a study that being lax on crime will incentivize more crime? It's a well known effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_windows_theory Continue to vote for policies that make your city a hell hole. I don't really care anymore, I don't live there.
- juve1996 4y ago
  The "criticism" section is on that article and has many objections. It is not accepted fact. > It has also been argued that rates of major crimes also dropped in many other US cities during the 1990s, both those that had adopted broken windows policing and those that had not.[41] In the winter 2006 edition of the University of Chicago Law Review, Bernard Harcourt and Jens Ludwig looked at the later Department of Housing and Urban Development program that rehoused inner-city project tenants in New York into more-orderly neighborhoods.[25] The broken windows theory would suggest that these tenants would commit less crime once moved because of the more stable conditions on the streets. However, Harcourt and Ludwig found that the tenants continued to commit crime at the same rate. Still waiting on real evidence of causation.
  - hunterb123 4y ago
    Alright, people are all good, incentives don't exist, and there's no reason to enforce laws. Have fun on the streets in your shithole city! Just remember it's made possible by voters like you! Remember to step over the shit and broken glass, but don't worry the next person won't dare to shit in the same spot! I don't really care if you believe broken window theory, I don't live around your policies.
    - juve1996 4y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - hunterb123 4y ago
    - slater 4y ago
      "When the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the loser"
      - hunterb123 4y ago
        Did I slander him? I criticized the policies he votes for and his thought process. I did not slander him as a person, I criticized his way of thinking. I did insult his hypothetical city, but we're discussing the cause as to why cities are shitholes, it's not slander when it's true. He wants proof that being lax on crime perpetuates crime, yet ignores decades of basic criminology due to a wikipedia criticism section with no substance. Words have specific definitions, not what you want to stretch them to to make your snarky point.