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Like I said, it's a choice. Everything that has been built has been because people channel their cynicism into an improvement. This particular space is inherent

Like I said, it's a choice. Everything that has been built has been because people channel their cynicism into an improvement. This particular space is inherently built to incentivize that, and thats what has occurred over the last decade and is only accelerating now that the builders are capitalized well enough to hire more builders.

stormbrew 4y ago
Your mistake is assuming that your pet cause is the thing people should be channeling their skepticism-driven effort into. You’re basically asking me to try to solve world hunger with car manufacturing. I can see the merit in solving the problem, and am perfectly happy to help contribute to solving it, but your chosen tool has literally nothing to recommend itself as a solution.
- vmception 4y ago
  > Your mistake > Assuming > You’re basically asking I'm not assuming that. I'm not saying that. I'm not asking you to do anything so what mistake is possible? I'm not forcing you to drink, I'm not even leading you to the water. I said, in a very pragmatic way, that being just a cynic is a choice. The people that such cynics are criticizing are and were also cynics. The users on the other hand, go ahead and make fun of them, they don't know shit. The builders that led everything to the state it is were and are cynics. I'm only saying this is what people are doing and that's the choice they took, its available. So its not really as divisive as you think when its cynics all the way down. Find someone else to convince you why that choice is viable for you. Everyone knows your stance, I don't care about that axe you to have to grind, my role was what I said.
  - stormbrew 4y ago
    My god. You say I have an axe to grind, but I suggest that maybe there are better tools for the thing under discussion and I'm a cynic, making fun of users, tearing down the builders. This is just ad hominem. You did indeed ask me to expend effort, whether you see it that way or not. If you want to build great things, you might want to learn how to listen to criticism and not just assume that anyone who disagrees with you is being mean.
    - vmception 4y ago
      I make fun of users. I think they are fair game. The user behavior adds to other people’s cynicism. Thats the only relation. I dont know if you make fun of users, its not ad hominem, I’m not looking at any of your other threads. To me, this isnt a discussion about other technologies, thats why I’m ignoring your rebuttals if you would call them that, I know blockchains have tradeoffs and I dont care: Focus on what you can control and go where the customers are. I’m sticking with my supposition that cynics have a choice, thats the whole conversation to me.

stormbrew 4y ago

Your mistake is assuming that your pet cause is the thing people should be channeling their skepticism-driven effort into. You’re basically asking me to try to solve world hunger with car manufacturing. I can see the merit in solving the problem, and am perfectly happy to help contribute to solving it, but your chosen tool has literally nothing to recommend itself as a solution.

vmception 4y ago
> Your mistake > Assuming > You’re basically asking I'm not assuming that. I'm not saying that. I'm not asking you to do anything so what mistake is possible? I'm not forcing you to drink, I'm not even leading you to the water. I said, in a very pragmatic way, that being just a cynic is a choice. The people that such cynics are criticizing are and were also cynics. The users on the other hand, go ahead and make fun of them, they don't know shit. The builders that led everything to the state it is were and are cynics. I'm only saying this is what people are doing and that's the choice they took, its available. So its not really as divisive as you think when its cynics all the way down. Find someone else to convince you why that choice is viable for you. Everyone knows your stance, I don't care about that axe you to have to grind, my role was what I said.
- stormbrew 4y ago
  My god. You say I have an axe to grind, but I suggest that maybe there are better tools for the thing under discussion and I'm a cynic, making fun of users, tearing down the builders. This is just ad hominem. You did indeed ask me to expend effort, whether you see it that way or not. If you want to build great things, you might want to learn how to listen to criticism and not just assume that anyone who disagrees with you is being mean.
  - vmception 4y ago
    I make fun of users. I think they are fair game. The user behavior adds to other people’s cynicism. Thats the only relation. I dont know if you make fun of users, its not ad hominem, I’m not looking at any of your other threads. To me, this isnt a discussion about other technologies, thats why I’m ignoring your rebuttals if you would call them that, I know blockchains have tradeoffs and I dont care: Focus on what you can control and go where the customers are. I’m sticking with my supposition that cynics have a choice, thats the whole conversation to me.