> That's why we ended up with Java. To be fair, I've seen much bigger unrecognizable blobs in Java than I have in any Lisp. A language that's too rigid just ma

> That's why we ended up with Java. To be fair, I've seen much bigger unrecognizable blobs in Java than I have in any Lisp. A language that's too rigid just makes people reach for other workarounds, e.g. craziness in the build system, using lots of reflection, configuring things with XML, etc. It doesn't make it any easier for someone to come into a project and understand what's going on. At least with Common Lisp you can just expand the macros to see what's going on.