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Head down south. Knoxville is lovely, Nashville is booming. Atlanta is... Atlanta.

by rpmisms 5y ago

legitster 5y ago
True, this could specifically be a West coast thing.
- rpmisms 5y ago
  I'm east coast for life, and the West Coast confuses me. If you do move to one of the lovely cities in Dixie, please don't vote or push for cultural changes until you're integrated.
  - vineyardmike 5y ago
    Or do vote how you want. Your culture is as valid as the inhabitants. Act like Americans do and drive out the locals. Be the pilgrims.
    - rpmisms 5y ago
      Would you make this same argument for Americans moving en masse to a small country with a rich heritage, and promptly trying to erase it? It happened in the past, doesn't make it right.
      - vineyardmike 5y ago
        My comment was a bit tongue in check, where no people shouldn’t act like Americans did. BUT you shouldn’t have to integrate with “Dixie” culture, and bringing your culture with you (and exercising your right to vote) is not wrong. Americans didn’t just “bring their culture”, of course, they slaughtered locals and enslaved them and destroyed their lives. Voting against gun violence or against Christian-centric moral laws is NOT doing the same thing to “Dixie” as American colonists did to the earlier inhabitants, and is -i would say- still respectful.
        rpmisms 5y ago
        > bringing your culture with you [...] is not wrong. Is if it sucks, and has demonstrably ruined other cities.
        vineyardmike 5y ago
        Demonstrably, American south was already pretty ruined by that metric. Lots of people don’t feel safe being in most of those places alone, lots of them feel their voice isnt heard or respected, and there’s rampant discrimination. But seriously, “demonstrably ruined” is a very one note take and not really useful. People deserve to have their culture respected and it’s totally fine to take it with you. That’s the whole point of American individualism. It wasn’t supposed to be about guns and group think it was supposed to be self determination and the freedom to make your own path. People come to America for freedom, not because they want to conform. When’d we lose that?
        rpmisms 5y ago
        > Lots of people don’t feel safe being in most of those places alone, lots of them feel their voice isnt heard or respected, and there’s rampant discrimination. That sounds like most cities.
        Decker87 5y ago
        Go ahead and demonstrate it.
  - m0llusk 5y ago
    This idea that people voted for what the West Coast became makes no sense. There were always many issues in flux and various camps involved. Ronald Reagan lay the foundation for what is there today. And many of the disgusting wash outs that accumulate in the gutters fled from conservative parts of the South and Midwest when the mills and small manufacturing got outsourced. Take some responsibility for your refugees mister careful with cultural changes integration master.
silicon2401 5y ago
> Head down south. Knoxville is lovely, Nashville is booming. Atlanta is... Atlanta. I personally wish people wouldn't say stuff like this. The reason urban places are terrible is because of the people and attitudes there. As soon as they move somewhere else, they're just going to ruin that place with regressive policies and idealistic goals too.
- rpmisms 5y ago
  I'm moving near Knoxville for family reasons, and I'll be voting properly, to not ruin the area. I also fully intend to buy the most annoying truck possible, doing my part to keep Cali refugees from finding it desirable. I do know people who moved to the area from California, but they fit in wonderfully and think it's great when the 8-year-old grabs the Henry to go squirrel hunting. Edit: By keeping busibodies who can't mind their own business out of the area, I will be adding value. I'll still take the Tesla on road trips, don't worry.
  - yhoneycomb 5y ago
    Willing to bet that the kind of person who holds views like the commenter above also harbors racist views > I do know people who moved to the area from California, but they fit in wonderfully ie, white?
    - rpmisms 5y ago
      No, actually. I'm talking about people who move to an area wanting to change it, in my experience typically (but not always) rich, white, never gone hunting, that sort. This is completely ideological, not racial. If you want to correlate those two, that's on you.
hunterb123 5y ago
Knoxville is still nice, Nashville is already ruined by progressive policies. Homeless pissing on the sidewalk in broad daylight, hassling people as you walk out of buildings, etc. I wish people that moved to places like Nashville and Austin would rethink who and what they vote for.
- JaimeThompson 5y ago
  >progressive policies. What are progressive policies?
  - rpmisms 5y ago
    Cash free bail, hard drugs being decriminalized, anti-gun/anti-personal-protection laws.
    - hunterb123 5y ago
      Yeah, that about sums it up.
    - x86_64Ubuntu 5y ago
      So those problems didn't exist during the "tough-on-crime" era?
    - JaimeThompson 5y ago
      Other countries have decriminalized hard drugs without drastic increases in crime, haven't they? What anti-gun/anti-personal-protection laws are you referring to?
      - rpmisms 5y ago
        Other countries have very different problems than the US. I don't think that's controversial. Try getting a gun legally in NYC. It's next to impossible. I can carry in downtown Nashville, no problem. You'd be a lot less likely to carjack someone if you thought they might have a gun, right?
gregors 5y ago
Living in Knoxville and loving it! Chattanooga is also great! * Great Smoky Mountains National Park nearby * Municipal internet being worked on in Knoxville, already running in Chattanooga * University of Tennessee * Oak Ridge National Lab - 2nd fastest supercomputer * Elixir, Golang, Rust, Clojure if you know where to look https://www.kub.org/about/about-kub/kub-service-areas/century-ii/meter-modernization/broadband-services-public-forum https://www.kub.org/about/about-kub/kub-service-areas/centur... https://epb.com/fi-speed-internet/ https://epb.com/fi-speed-internet/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summit_(supercomputer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summit_(supercomputer)

Head down south. Knoxville is lovely, Nashville is booming. Atlanta is... Atlanta.

legitster 5y ago

True, this could specifically be a West coast thing.

rpmisms 5y ago
I'm east coast for life, and the West Coast confuses me. If you do move to one of the lovely cities in Dixie, please don't vote or push for cultural changes until you're integrated.
- vineyardmike 5y ago
  Or do vote how you want. Your culture is as valid as the inhabitants. Act like Americans do and drive out the locals. Be the pilgrims.
  - rpmisms 5y ago
    Would you make this same argument for Americans moving en masse to a small country with a rich heritage, and promptly trying to erase it? It happened in the past, doesn't make it right.
    - vineyardmike 5y ago
      My comment was a bit tongue in check, where no people shouldn’t act like Americans did. BUT you shouldn’t have to integrate with “Dixie” culture, and bringing your culture with you (and exercising your right to vote) is not wrong. Americans didn’t just “bring their culture”, of course, they slaughtered locals and enslaved them and destroyed their lives. Voting against gun violence or against Christian-centric moral laws is NOT doing the same thing to “Dixie” as American colonists did to the earlier inhabitants, and is -i would say- still respectful.
      - rpmisms 5y ago
        > bringing your culture with you [...] is not wrong. Is if it sucks, and has demonstrably ruined other cities.
        vineyardmike 5y ago
        Demonstrably, American south was already pretty ruined by that metric. Lots of people don’t feel safe being in most of those places alone, lots of them feel their voice isnt heard or respected, and there’s rampant discrimination. But seriously, “demonstrably ruined” is a very one note take and not really useful. People deserve to have their culture respected and it’s totally fine to take it with you. That’s the whole point of American individualism. It wasn’t supposed to be about guns and group think it was supposed to be self determination and the freedom to make your own path. People come to America for freedom, not because they want to conform. When’d we lose that?
        rpmisms 5y ago
        > Lots of people don’t feel safe being in most of those places alone, lots of them feel their voice isnt heard or respected, and there’s rampant discrimination. That sounds like most cities.
        Decker87 5y ago
        Go ahead and demonstrate it.
- m0llusk 5y ago
  This idea that people voted for what the West Coast became makes no sense. There were always many issues in flux and various camps involved. Ronald Reagan lay the foundation for what is there today. And many of the disgusting wash outs that accumulate in the gutters fled from conservative parts of the South and Midwest when the mills and small manufacturing got outsourced. Take some responsibility for your refugees mister careful with cultural changes integration master.

silicon2401 5y ago

> Head down south. Knoxville is lovely, Nashville is booming. Atlanta is... Atlanta. I personally wish people wouldn't say stuff like this. The reason urban places are terrible is because of the people and attitudes there. As soon as they move somewhere else, they're just going to ruin that place with regressive policies and idealistic goals too.

rpmisms 5y ago
I'm moving near Knoxville for family reasons, and I'll be voting properly, to not ruin the area. I also fully intend to buy the most annoying truck possible, doing my part to keep Cali refugees from finding it desirable. I do know people who moved to the area from California, but they fit in wonderfully and think it's great when the 8-year-old grabs the Henry to go squirrel hunting. Edit: By keeping busibodies who can't mind their own business out of the area, I will be adding value. I'll still take the Tesla on road trips, don't worry.
- yhoneycomb 5y ago
  Willing to bet that the kind of person who holds views like the commenter above also harbors racist views > I do know people who moved to the area from California, but they fit in wonderfully ie, white?
  - rpmisms 5y ago
    No, actually. I'm talking about people who move to an area wanting to change it, in my experience typically (but not always) rich, white, never gone hunting, that sort. This is completely ideological, not racial. If you want to correlate those two, that's on you.

hunterb123 5y ago

Knoxville is still nice, Nashville is already ruined by progressive policies. Homeless pissing on the sidewalk in broad daylight, hassling people as you walk out of buildings, etc. I wish people that moved to places like Nashville and Austin would rethink who and what they vote for.

JaimeThompson 5y ago
>progressive policies. What are progressive policies?
- rpmisms 5y ago
  Cash free bail, hard drugs being decriminalized, anti-gun/anti-personal-protection laws.
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    Yeah, that about sums it up.
  - x86_64Ubuntu 5y ago
    So those problems didn't exist during the "tough-on-crime" era?
  - JaimeThompson 5y ago
    Other countries have decriminalized hard drugs without drastic increases in crime, haven't they? What anti-gun/anti-personal-protection laws are you referring to?
    - rpmisms 5y ago
      Other countries have very different problems than the US. I don't think that's controversial. Try getting a gun legally in NYC. It's next to impossible. I can carry in downtown Nashville, no problem. You'd be a lot less likely to carjack someone if you thought they might have a gun, right?

gregors 5y ago

Living in Knoxville and loving it! Chattanooga is also great! * Great Smoky Mountains National Park nearby * Municipal internet being worked on in Knoxville, already running in Chattanooga * University of Tennessee * Oak Ridge National Lab - 2nd fastest supercomputer * Elixir, Golang, Rust, Clojure if you know where to look https://www.kub.org/about/about-kub/kub-service-areas/century-ii/meter-modernization/broadband-services-public-forum https://www.kub.org/about/about-kub/kub-service-areas/centur... https://epb.com/fi-speed-internet/ https://epb.com/fi-speed-internet/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summit_(supercomputer) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summit_(supercomputer)