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Yes, that is exactly what happened. It's clear and you can see by the likes of people such as Jameela Jamil leaving explicitly because of Elon buying it. If yo

by stnmtn 4y ago

Yes, that is exactly what happened. It's clear and you can see by the likes of people such as Jameela Jamil leaving explicitly because of Elon buying it. If you are on twitter, and follow people on the left, a big topic right now is whether people should leave as a direct result of the Elon purchase.

blitzar 4y ago
> It's clear and you can see by the likes of people such as Jameela Jamil leaving Its incredibly obviously clear, given the thing you say has happened, hasnt happened. [0] [0] https://twitter.com/jameelajamil https://twitter.com/jameelajamil
- stale2002 4y ago
  Did you read the tweets on that twitter? Here, I'll help you out: https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1518641966661177344 https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1518641966661177344 If someone makes a twitter post, saying that they "will FINALLY leave", I think it is fair to describe that person as being in the process of "leaving". Thus, that is fair evidence that yes, at least people are talking about leaving twitter over the elon purchase, and that this might effect user stats.
  - blitzar 4y ago
    It is also proof that many people say they will do something on their twitter account and their twitter account remains. I have presented conclusive and definative proof that they have not left twitter at hte time of this posting. Do you have proof that they are "in the process of leaving twitter"?
    - stnmtn 4y ago
      The thing is that it's very hard to prove that someone left twitter if you only define leaving twitter as "accounts being deleted"... as their account is deleted. That makes it something hard to prove, and if that is the only way that you will believe that anyone has left twitter there's no way I'm going to spend that amount of time digging up previously active accounts that have since been deleted
      - blitzar 4y ago
        The topic in question is why some accounts have lost followers - the explanation is people have left twitter - the "proof" is jameelajamil left twitter. We have established the account is still there - we agree on that. They tweeted "they were leaving" - we agree on that. However, they have not deleted their account and have not unfollowed everyone they previously followed [0]. So if this is the example of "what is happening" how does that action (saying you are leaving, not deleting your account and not unfollowing anyone) lead to accounts have lost thousands followers [0] https://socialblade.com/twitter/user/jameelajamil https://socialblade.com/twitter/user/jameelajamil
        stnmtn 4y ago
        Like I have said, I am not going to invest time into figuring out a way to find previously active twitter accounts that were deleted in the past ~4 days to have definite proof. I don't care enough, and it seems like it would take a time investment to figure out how to do that that a silly internet debate does not merit. I am asking you to take the step from "Many people are saying they will quit twitter and have stopped posting" -> "It is reasonable to assume that there are some amount of people who have quit twitter and deleted their account". If you are unwilling to make that conclusion, they by all means go ahead; but I think you are being unreasonable to not make that relatively safe assumption
    - stale2002 4y ago
      > Do you have proof that they are "in the process of leaving twitter"? The point being here, that you are being pedantic, and borderline bad faith. It is perfectly reasonable for someone to say "Hey, there is this person who is leaving twitter", in reference to a post of them saying that they are doing that. And you are coming in, saying "Well, actually! Technically speaking, I don't see a deleted twitter account yet, therefore by the laws of debate land, you are wrong!" just comes off as you being a pedantic idiot. The original interpretation, is a reasonable one, for regular human beings to reasonable agree is mostly true. And pedantic "well actually" people, like yourself, are contributing nothing to the conversation, and just trying to get a 1 off, bad faith gotcha on a technicality. Stop. Nobody likes you when you do that, and nobody is fooled by your behavior.
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      - blitzar 4y ago
        Well I for one am glad Musk is taking over and putting horrible little people like you, who want to censor others in their place. Finally speech will be free again. Please feel free to take your leave twitter, move to canada or whatever else you snowflakes like to do.
- stnmtn 4y ago
  https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1518676806261477386 https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1518676806261477386 I'm using her declaration as a high-profile example of someone deciding to leave twitter simply due to Elon's purchase. She hasn't deleted her account, most likely because she doesn't want to let someone else get her account name and impersonate her or something similar, but for non-celebrities it's really safe to assume that many people have deleted their accounts as a result of elon; and that many have created accounts as a result of elon; and their choices on who to follow will closely correlate with their politics. Can you provide any evidence that it's a grander conspiracy like you alleged?
  - blitzar 4y ago
    > Can you provide any evidence that it's a grander conspiracy like you alleged? I alleged absolutely nothing of the kind. I simply pointed out that X person leaving twitter had not actually occured. I could, use your cited example to point out that, while many people say they would leave twitter, like those that say they will leave the country if the other guy becomes president, they havent. As proven, obviously, by whoever this jameelajamil person is.
    - stnmtn 4y ago
      Ok, fair enough I thought you were on the side of the commenter who made this comment: > I'm still waiting for an explanation on why liberal accounts have lost thousands followers but conservative accounts have gained thousands. > I'm fairly liberal myself, but seeing what is clear shadow banning/suppression especially of politicians is borderline voting interference and should be punished heavily at both the corporate and personnel level.
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by stnmtn 4y ago

blitzar 4y ago

> It's clear and you can see by the likes of people such as Jameela Jamil leaving Its incredibly obviously clear, given the thing you say has happened, hasnt happened. [0] [0] https://twitter.com/jameelajamil https://twitter.com/jameelajamil

stale2002 4y ago
Did you read the tweets on that twitter? Here, I'll help you out: https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1518641966661177344 https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1518641966661177344 If someone makes a twitter post, saying that they "will FINALLY leave", I think it is fair to describe that person as being in the process of "leaving". Thus, that is fair evidence that yes, at least people are talking about leaving twitter over the elon purchase, and that this might effect user stats.
- blitzar 4y ago
  It is also proof that many people say they will do something on their twitter account and their twitter account remains. I have presented conclusive and definative proof that they have not left twitter at hte time of this posting. Do you have proof that they are "in the process of leaving twitter"?
  - stnmtn 4y ago
    The thing is that it's very hard to prove that someone left twitter if you only define leaving twitter as "accounts being deleted"... as their account is deleted. That makes it something hard to prove, and if that is the only way that you will believe that anyone has left twitter there's no way I'm going to spend that amount of time digging up previously active accounts that have since been deleted
    - blitzar 4y ago
      The topic in question is why some accounts have lost followers - the explanation is people have left twitter - the "proof" is jameelajamil left twitter. We have established the account is still there - we agree on that. They tweeted "they were leaving" - we agree on that. However, they have not deleted their account and have not unfollowed everyone they previously followed [0]. So if this is the example of "what is happening" how does that action (saying you are leaving, not deleting your account and not unfollowing anyone) lead to accounts have lost thousands followers [0] https://socialblade.com/twitter/user/jameelajamil https://socialblade.com/twitter/user/jameelajamil
      - stnmtn 4y ago
        Like I have said, I am not going to invest time into figuring out a way to find previously active twitter accounts that were deleted in the past ~4 days to have definite proof. I don't care enough, and it seems like it would take a time investment to figure out how to do that that a silly internet debate does not merit. I am asking you to take the step from "Many people are saying they will quit twitter and have stopped posting" -> "It is reasonable to assume that there are some amount of people who have quit twitter and deleted their account". If you are unwilling to make that conclusion, they by all means go ahead; but I think you are being unreasonable to not make that relatively safe assumption
  - stale2002 4y ago
    > Do you have proof that they are "in the process of leaving twitter"? The point being here, that you are being pedantic, and borderline bad faith. It is perfectly reasonable for someone to say "Hey, there is this person who is leaving twitter", in reference to a post of them saying that they are doing that. And you are coming in, saying "Well, actually! Technically speaking, I don't see a deleted twitter account yet, therefore by the laws of debate land, you are wrong!" just comes off as you being a pedantic idiot. The original interpretation, is a reasonable one, for regular human beings to reasonable agree is mostly true. And pedantic "well actually" people, like yourself, are contributing nothing to the conversation, and just trying to get a 1 off, bad faith gotcha on a technicality. Stop. Nobody likes you when you do that, and nobody is fooled by your behavior.
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    - blitzar 4y ago
      Well I for one am glad Musk is taking over and putting horrible little people like you, who want to censor others in their place. Finally speech will be free again. Please feel free to take your leave twitter, move to canada or whatever else you snowflakes like to do.
stnmtn 4y ago
https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1518676806261477386 https://twitter.com/jameelajamil/status/1518676806261477386 I'm using her declaration as a high-profile example of someone deciding to leave twitter simply due to Elon's purchase. She hasn't deleted her account, most likely because she doesn't want to let someone else get her account name and impersonate her or something similar, but for non-celebrities it's really safe to assume that many people have deleted their accounts as a result of elon; and that many have created accounts as a result of elon; and their choices on who to follow will closely correlate with their politics. Can you provide any evidence that it's a grander conspiracy like you alleged?
- blitzar 4y ago
  > Can you provide any evidence that it's a grander conspiracy like you alleged? I alleged absolutely nothing of the kind. I simply pointed out that X person leaving twitter had not actually occured. I could, use your cited example to point out that, while many people say they would leave twitter, like those that say they will leave the country if the other guy becomes president, they havent. As proven, obviously, by whoever this jameelajamil person is.
  - stnmtn 4y ago
    Ok, fair enough I thought you were on the side of the commenter who made this comment: > I'm still waiting for an explanation on why liberal accounts have lost thousands followers but conservative accounts have gained thousands. > I'm fairly liberal myself, but seeing what is clear shadow banning/suppression especially of politicians is borderline voting interference and should be punished heavily at both the corporate and personnel level.
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