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I'm sadly unsurprised at the barbarism of how they killed them. Iowa is one of multiple states in the USA that makes it a crime for employees to film animal to

by floor2 4y ago

I'm sadly unsurprised at the barbarism of how they killed them. Iowa is one of multiple states in the USA that makes it a crime for employees to film animal torture or abuse in such facilities. The status-quo of how beef, pork and poultry are produced in America is horrific (in terms of sanitation, animal suffering and worker exploitation) and rather than do anything to improve it, we treat whistleblowers like terrorists and make even publicizing the abuses into felonies.

pvaldes 4y ago
The goal is not avoiding chicken cruelty, is stopping a outbreak virus and saving millions of domestic birds and wildlife. They were obliged by law to do it, want it or not, and is for yesterday. And you need to sterilize the enclosures also. We talk about extreme measures but we shouldn't ignore that the problem was also extremely difficult to address. I'm more than open to discusse any ideas about how to do this task while making happy also the cruelty animal crew.
- Adraghast 4y ago
  > The goal is not avoiding chicken cruelty, is stopping a outbreak virus and saving millions of domestic birds and wildlife. People are not automatons who must follow a single goal at the expense of all other considerations. > I'm more than open to discusse any ideas about how to do this task while making happy also the cruelty animal crew. Yeah, you’re totally operating in good faith. The answer is nitrogen poisoning by the way.
  - pvaldes 4y ago
    > Yeah, you’re totally operating in good faith. This does not matter. This is about providing solutions not about "I'm holier than thou" or virtue signaling. I could be Mr. Eggman and they would still have exactly the same problem to solve. Nitrogen is odorless, so accumulating in the coops would be dangerous for workers. Buying it in large amounts could be also problematic and expensive.

by floor2 4y ago

pvaldes 4y ago

The goal is not avoiding chicken cruelty, is stopping a outbreak virus and saving millions of domestic birds and wildlife. They were obliged by law to do it, want it or not, and is for yesterday. And you need to sterilize the enclosures also. We talk about extreme measures but we shouldn't ignore that the problem was also extremely difficult to address. I'm more than open to discusse any ideas about how to do this task while making happy also the cruelty animal crew.

Adraghast 4y ago
> The goal is not avoiding chicken cruelty, is stopping a outbreak virus and saving millions of domestic birds and wildlife. People are not automatons who must follow a single goal at the expense of all other considerations. > I'm more than open to discusse any ideas about how to do this task while making happy also the cruelty animal crew. Yeah, you’re totally operating in good faith. The answer is nitrogen poisoning by the way.
- pvaldes 4y ago
  > Yeah, you’re totally operating in good faith. This does not matter. This is about providing solutions not about "I'm holier than thou" or virtue signaling. I could be Mr. Eggman and they would still have exactly the same problem to solve. Nitrogen is odorless, so accumulating in the coops would be dangerous for workers. Buying it in large amounts could be also problematic and expensive.