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I wonder if I'm the only person that thinks that Xcode is the problem, not ObjC. Having experience with C I feel just fine writing code in Objective-C, but only

I wonder if I'm the only person that thinks that Xcode is the problem, not ObjC. Having experience with C I feel just fine writing code in Objective-C, but only the thought of trying to use Xcode instead of Emacs is painful. I'd love to know what Eclipse/VS/NetBeans users think about it, maybe it's easier if you're already used to working inside a huge IDE.

stephth 15y ago
you don't need to use XCode. I keep it open to manage, build, etc, but use textmate to do the editing.
5hoom 15y ago
No, you're not the only one. Most of the problems I've hit with iOS development are Xcode-isms. I've recently been sent on a merry hunt to get the built-in git integration from imploding, and the project groups vs folders ambiguity has caused mistakes of the "what actual file is this name pointing too again?" variety (and this in turn leads back to the git integration issues when a file is not where you think it is). It would also be nice if Objective-C++ was a first class citizen with regards to refactoring tools (I understand this might be hard to implement however). Rarely has it been a problem with the actual language itself.
- dbattaglia 15y ago
  I believe JetBrains have an Obj-C IDE now. Haven't tried it yet but I know they are pretty good at the whole refactoring thing (I use ReSharper at work all the time).
tomjen3 15y ago
I am a fan of Eclipse, but I hate xcode - it hasn't got half of the features it should have and the code completion is just horribly bad.
- glaurent 15y ago
  Code completion in XCode 4.2 using llvm/clang has improved a whole lot. I'd say it's on par with Eclipse now.
  - atomicdog 15y ago
    Yep, no complaints with the new XCode 4 autocomplete. There are also other cool IDE features such as cmd+shift+F á la Visual Studio.
n00kie 15y ago
xcode - unstable piece of sh*t. Even after so many years it still tends to crash randomly...

stephth 15y ago

you don't need to use XCode. I keep it open to manage, build, etc, but use textmate to do the editing.

5hoom 15y ago

No, you're not the only one. Most of the problems I've hit with iOS development are Xcode-isms. I've recently been sent on a merry hunt to get the built-in git integration from imploding, and the project groups vs folders ambiguity has caused mistakes of the "what actual file is this name pointing too again?" variety (and this in turn leads back to the git integration issues when a file is not where you think it is). It would also be nice if Objective-C++ was a first class citizen with regards to refactoring tools (I understand this might be hard to implement however). Rarely has it been a problem with the actual language itself.

dbattaglia 15y ago
I believe JetBrains have an Obj-C IDE now. Haven't tried it yet but I know they are pretty good at the whole refactoring thing (I use ReSharper at work all the time).

tomjen3 15y ago

I am a fan of Eclipse, but I hate xcode - it hasn't got half of the features it should have and the code completion is just horribly bad.

glaurent 15y ago
Code completion in XCode 4.2 using llvm/clang has improved a whole lot. I'd say it's on par with Eclipse now.
- atomicdog 15y ago
  Yep, no complaints with the new XCode 4 autocomplete. There are also other cool IDE features such as cmd+shift+F á la Visual Studio.

n00kie 15y ago

xcode - unstable piece of sh*t. Even after so many years it still tends to crash randomly...