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Copilot is closing
- rjmunro 4y agoThere was a documentary about the creation of copilot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NRL7YsXjSg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NRL7YsXjSg
- zerr 4y agoRelocating for an employment - so old school :)
- mattl 4y agoI was given a DVD of this when I visited Fog Creek one day.
- chrisseaton 4y agoWhat became of Fog Creek? It's all gone a bit... NFT. https://glitch.com https://glitch.com
- caseysoftware 4y agoWow, that's a flashback. I was active on the Joel On Software Forums prior to that (hi, Patio11) and loved watching the development of Copilot unfold. It was even better that one of the interns was from my tiny undergrad: Rose-Hulman
- tailspin2019 4y agoI remember buying this on DVD and following this little startup with fascination! I was just starting my own software business so it was quite inspiring at the time.
- a3w 4y agoThis is not Github copilot? What was it?
- colourgarden 4y agoSecond paragraph.
- scoot 4y agoFirst paragraph, third sentence.
- hackmiester 4y agoYes, I was disappointed to see that.
- spicybright 4y agoWhy disappointed? Is copilot being an option detrimental to your own development?
- xeromal 4y agoYeah, I don't get the hate. I've been using copilot since the release and it's pretty handy. It ain't god's gift to this earth yet, but it's pretty useful for boilerplate scenarios.
- rectang 4y agoGithub Copilot violates the licenses of the open source code that it uses as its source material. I, for one, am pissed off about that. If you don't care about those authors, or don't care about copyright in general, or you agree with Microsoft's sketchy reasoning that copyright violation never occurs in Github Copilot (even though Github Copilot is perfectly capable of regurgitating big verbatim chunks of code from its training corpus)... then you won't get the hate.
- gowld 4y ago> Github Copilot violates the licenses Not even the FSF had made that claim yet. They are still in research mode: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/fsf-funded-call-for-white-papers-on-philosophical-and-legal-questions-around-copilot https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/fsf-funded-call-for-whit... https://www.fsf.org/news/publication-of-the-fsf-funded-white-papers-on-questions-around-copilot https://www.fsf.org/news/publication-of-the-fsf-funded-white... The latest conclusions so far: https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/copyright-implications-of-the-use-of-code-repositories-to-train-a-machine-learning-model https://www.fsf.org/licensing/copilot/copyright-implications... "Copilot and its developer-customers likely do not infringe developers’ copyrights."
- exdsq 4y agoThat’s like three days notice assuming this was released recently
- cldellow 4y agoThey announced it on Jan 3: https://twitter.com/CopilotCom/status/1478109914585255940 https://twitter.com/CopilotCom/status/1478109914585255940
- djbusby 4y agoIt's a screensharing thing, not the GitHub thing
- Beaver117 4y agoClickbait
- senko 4y agoHow is this clickbait? Copilot, a software product created and named 7 years before GitHub came out with a different product using the same name, is shutting down.
- chrisseaton 4y agoBecause 'Copilot' will (obviously) cause people to think GitHub Copilot. Nobody can seriously claim to think this is the most prominent 'Copilot' out there.
- lisper 4y agoA data point: I had never heard of either one before seeing this post. While researching, I found a third copilot: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/copilot-the-smart-money-app/id1447330651 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/copilot-the-smart-money-app/id...
- patrickserrano 4y agoThat's the one I thought this article was about.
- lisper 4y agoDid you actually look at both? The article is about a remote support app and my link is to a spending and investment tracker. I'm pretty sure those are not the same thing.
- ksec 4y agoMay be Github should buy the domain name off them?
- LeonB 4y agoCopilot was a very good implementation in it’s time. It was a pleasure to use.
- cldellow 4y agoI resolved many a tech issue for parents from several thousand km away, all thanks to Copilot. It was really, really good for its time -- paying, deploying the agent on the remote end, tunneling through a shared publicly reachable host. Every time I paid my $5 I was happy to do it.
- draw_down 4y ago
- skeeter2020 4y ago> As a bonus, they're offering Copilot users 95% off the first year, meaning that you will get HelpDesk for a full year for just $24.98, I don't know the particular of the plans but a quick visit to RemotePC and they're trying to entice me with "SAVE* 90% $1.95 First Year for 1 computer" if I switch. I assume the Copilot plan is not considered a competitor, or maybe has larger limits, also hopefully "1 computer" means one target, and not a total network of 1 computer :) Regardless, the RemotePC website gave me intense GoDaddy vibes, which is not good.
- londons_explore 4y agoYeah - I get the feeling this is a paid endorsement...
- rsstack 4y agoYou got the ad for the lowest plan, "Consumer one computer" (yes - that's only one computer, likely a parent or a grandparent). They're discussing here the highest plan, "Enterprise".
- ostefanovskyi 4y agoThe header scared the hell out of me.
- brk 4y agoI used to use Copilot and it worked well. While I moved out of a function needing this kind of service, I am surprised it is shutting down. IMO the leading product in this space (TeamViewer) is such a customer-hostile product that I would have expected Copilot, or some other alternative, to evolve into a strong competitor.
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- AdmiralAsshat 4y agoThank-you for not titling the post 'Our incredible journey'.
- m00dy 4y agoI almost got a heart to attach and realized that it is not Github's copilot.
- tailspin2019 4y ago> I almost got a heart to attach To attach to what? I’d like to know more about this gruesome experiment of yours…
- ainar-g 4y agoWhen was this originally posted? Because telling your clients that you shut down everything three days later sounds rather not-nice.
- jeroen 4y agoJanuary, from another comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31193320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31193320
- tiffanyh 4y ago"Fog Creek" seems to be all gone. ---- CoPilot -> shutdown (intern project) Fog Creek -> Glitch FogBugz -> sold off Trello -> sold off (Atlassian) StackExchange -> sold off (intern project to create job board with was later moved over to StackExchange and became it's business model) CityDesk -> shutdown Kiln -> ??? ---- Joel has been working on https://hash.ai https://hash.ai but haven't heard much about what they are doing. I wonder if any Wasabi transpiler code is still out in the wild. For those not aware, Wasabi generated PHP from ASP code.
- swozey 4y agoI had no idea Trello was Fog Creek, interesting
- JCharante 4y agoI never heard of Fog Creek before, I didn't know that was the origin of StackExchange, Trello, and Glitch.me . So many good ideas at one company.
- tiffanyh 4y agohttps://www.joelonsoftware.com https://www.joelonsoftware.com was the go-to developer "blog", before blogs were even a thing.
- drewcoo 4y agoNo, it was a developer blog. Back when blogs were actually a thing. DailyWTF and Coding Horror are still around from then. And RaymondC's OldNewThing that shows up here once in a while, though initially I remember him blogging internally at MSFT, so maybe that doesn't count. There were many others, now long gone.
- jonsagara 4y ago> I wonder if any Wasabi transpiler code is still out in the wild. It is. I still have a FogBugz account, and I saw a Wasabi stack trace in my admin notifications the other day.
- btucker 4y agoI remember fondly following the Project Aardvark blog posts through the summer of 2005-- it was such an exciting time! It's still online here: https://www.projectaardvark.com https://www.projectaardvark.com Also, Joel's midterm report: https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2005/07/07/project-aardvark-midterm-report/ https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2005/07/07/project-aardvark-m...
- sergiomattei 4y agoChrist, my heart broke for a second there. I thought it was GitHub Copilot.