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surfing the web is a pain. I use a phone for webmail stuff, otherwise fallback to tui. rpi400 with alpine 64bit, external 1To SSD usb 3.

warrenm 4y ago
why is it a "pain"?
- ecmascript 4y ago
  I am a bit curious on why the OP think it's a pain. What version of raspberry pi is he/she using?
  - mattl 4y ago
    I’d imagine JavaScript heavy sites are pretty miserable on the Pi even the latest models.
    - ecmascript 4y ago
      As a javascript dev myself which write javascript heavy websites, I think all of my sites would perform just fine on a raspberry pi, at least on the newer models. What I am most afraid of is the editing experience mostly.
      - mattl 4y ago
        Editing JavaScript?
      - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
        > I think all of my sites would perform just fine on a raspberry pi Have you actually tested that?
    - mysterydip 4y ago
      Which is remarkable given how many older systems and software the pi can run natively or emulate at full speed. The web really can be embarassing in terms of performance.
      - brianwawok 4y ago
        But who cares? I don’t browse on a PI, I browse on a laptop.
      - hkt 4y ago
        It is awful, isn't it? I do wonder how many joules we waste on poorly performing web apps that could be made more efficient by applying less engineering rather than more.
- washadjeffmad 4y ago
  Media elements, JavaScript, RAM limitations, difficult video rendering, and crashing limit its productivity. Looking for ways to apply a new CCD to pi astrophotography recently, I made two mistakes: I didn't block ads and I opened more than two tabs. The pi ended up in swap hell for over a minute before I restarted. This is an rpi4 4GB, OC'd with heatsinks and active cooling, on a good IOPS SD. Browsing the web is the only thing I've found that it routinely struggles with.
  - nbernard 4y ago
    Swapping on the SD card is a nightmare. I found out that disabling the swap actually leads to a better experience, even if it means that firefox gets killed from time to time. [This comment was written on a rpi4, btw.]
    - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
      Would swap on zram work? I've used that to help with low-memory situations, but I'm not sure if the Pi's CPU is fast enough to avoid it being a different bottleneck.
      - washadjeffmad 4y ago
        It does work, and it's how I ran the same pi when it was a host to a particularly bloated java app prone to exceeding its -Xmx.
- amirouche 4y ago
  Like other have said javascript makes it slow. sourcehut.org: great. twitter: unsuable. mastodon: barely. github: ok-ish. gmail: ko. protonmail: ko. I use a rpi400 with 4GB of RAM. I forgot to mention the builtin wifi does not work great. I am using Ethernet. I am using the rpi400 to write this message, and I have been using it for two weeks. I tried ubuntu 22.04, 64bit raspberry pi OS too. And I intend to keep using the rpi400, and build my projects on top of it.

warrenm 4y ago

why is it a "pain"?

ecmascript 4y ago
I am a bit curious on why the OP think it's a pain. What version of raspberry pi is he/she using?
- mattl 4y ago
  I’d imagine JavaScript heavy sites are pretty miserable on the Pi even the latest models.
  - ecmascript 4y ago
    As a javascript dev myself which write javascript heavy websites, I think all of my sites would perform just fine on a raspberry pi, at least on the newer models. What I am most afraid of is the editing experience mostly.
    - mattl 4y ago
      Editing JavaScript?
    - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
      > I think all of my sites would perform just fine on a raspberry pi Have you actually tested that?
  - mysterydip 4y ago
    Which is remarkable given how many older systems and software the pi can run natively or emulate at full speed. The web really can be embarassing in terms of performance.
    - brianwawok 4y ago
      But who cares? I don’t browse on a PI, I browse on a laptop.
    - hkt 4y ago
      It is awful, isn't it? I do wonder how many joules we waste on poorly performing web apps that could be made more efficient by applying less engineering rather than more.
washadjeffmad 4y ago
Media elements, JavaScript, RAM limitations, difficult video rendering, and crashing limit its productivity. Looking for ways to apply a new CCD to pi astrophotography recently, I made two mistakes: I didn't block ads and I opened more than two tabs. The pi ended up in swap hell for over a minute before I restarted. This is an rpi4 4GB, OC'd with heatsinks and active cooling, on a good IOPS SD. Browsing the web is the only thing I've found that it routinely struggles with.
- nbernard 4y ago
  Swapping on the SD card is a nightmare. I found out that disabling the swap actually leads to a better experience, even if it means that firefox gets killed from time to time. [This comment was written on a rpi4, btw.]
  - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
    Would swap on zram work? I've used that to help with low-memory situations, but I'm not sure if the Pi's CPU is fast enough to avoid it being a different bottleneck.
    - washadjeffmad 4y ago
      It does work, and it's how I ran the same pi when it was a host to a particularly bloated java app prone to exceeding its -Xmx.
amirouche 4y ago
Like other have said javascript makes it slow. sourcehut.org: great. twitter: unsuable. mastodon: barely. github: ok-ish. gmail: ko. protonmail: ko. I use a rpi400 with 4GB of RAM. I forgot to mention the builtin wifi does not work great. I am using Ethernet. I am using the rpi400 to write this message, and I have been using it for two weeks. I tried ubuntu 22.04, 64bit raspberry pi OS too. And I intend to keep using the rpi400, and build my projects on top of it.