I'm not saying you are saying it's impossibe to save money! Please, no straw men. I started this dicussion by making a specific but limited claim that learning

I'm not saying you are saying it's impossibe to save money! Please, no straw men. I started this dicussion by making a specific but limited claim that learning about £30/year money saving tips that are easy to adopt is worth it for some people when they learn several and add them up. You are trying somehow to claim that if the tips are not identical in character to turning off devices that my claim is invalid. This makes no sense. Regarding the more vegetarian meals point; No it's not obvious to me that it is life changing. Having more vegetarian meals that it saves you £30/year is about as effortless as it gets. It's far far less effort than turning devices on and off almost every single day compared to maybe 10 times in an entire year to substitute meat with something plant based in a meal. Nothing life changing there. Just prepare a handful of meals little differently.