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It appears (from my vantage point 1300 miles away) that the Valley is somewhat different what a lot of America has become. There may still exist in Cupertino, L

It appears (from my vantage point 1300 miles away) that the Valley is somewhat different what a lot of America has become. There may still exist in Cupertino, Los Gatos, etc, an enlightened collegiality, but what about the rest of non-startup America? I think we've again become the proverbial Cog in the Machine, actually worse than that, not even a cog, just the bloody goop that's unfortunately still needed for the time being to keep the machine running - and as the machine inevitably becomes more efficient, fewer cogs and a hell of a lot less lubricant will be needed. Again, in this new Brave New World, why should we care about the corporation? Sorry if I sound like a '20s Marxist, but [it's my] natural reaction everything I've seen happen in the last decade.

mathattack 15y ago
Bayouborne- I respectfully disagree. I don't want to beat a dead horse too much since I usually protect my wallet when I hear folks preaching about ethics. (Why is it that ethics discussions usually follow people's economic position?) That said... I view it as the Golden Rule. Imagine you're heading to Tulane or Cal Tech or Stanford to recruit. It's taking a day off your schedule, but it's important to bring new folks in to the firm. You screen eighty resumes to interview twelve people, two of which you will bring back to your office for a full day of visits with your team and management. One of the two will get an offer. That's a lot of work. How would you feel if someone was just using this as practice because he would want to work for you later? If you found out, you would blacklist him from your company. Imagine you are one of the students at Tulane, CalTech or Stanford who doesn't have an offer yet. One lucky guy did. So you are trying hard to get on the interview list at Google, because that would certainly be a great first job out of school. Unfortunately you don't get chosen for the interview. Who does get chosen? Your classmate who already accepted an offer from somewhere else. How would that make you feel? What would you do? Talk to them? Talk to the company? In the latter case, it's not "Us against evil companies" it is being selfish at the expense of one's peers. In both cases it backfires. This is about people being professional with one another. Again - I don't want to rant too much on this, as most folks who lecture on ethics usually have hidden agendas. Thanks for listening. :-)

mathattack 15y ago

Bayouborne- I respectfully disagree. I don't want to beat a dead horse too much since I usually protect my wallet when I hear folks preaching about ethics. (Why is it that ethics discussions usually follow people's economic position?) That said... I view it as the Golden Rule. Imagine you're heading to Tulane or Cal Tech or Stanford to recruit. It's taking a day off your schedule, but it's important to bring new folks in to the firm. You screen eighty resumes to interview twelve people, two of which you will bring back to your office for a full day of visits with your team and management. One of the two will get an offer. That's a lot of work. How would you feel if someone was just using this as practice because he would want to work for you later? If you found out, you would blacklist him from your company. Imagine you are one of the students at Tulane, CalTech or Stanford who doesn't have an offer yet. One lucky guy did. So you are trying hard to get on the interview list at Google, because that would certainly be a great first job out of school. Unfortunately you don't get chosen for the interview. Who does get chosen? Your classmate who already accepted an offer from somewhere else. How would that make you feel? What would you do? Talk to them? Talk to the company? In the latter case, it's not "Us against evil companies" it is being selfish at the expense of one's peers. In both cases it backfires. This is about people being professional with one another. Again - I don't want to rant too much on this, as most folks who lecture on ethics usually have hidden agendas. Thanks for listening. :-)