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I thought Trek was remarkably upfront for a big (for bikes at least) company deciding to talk about sustainability and where they stand with it. https://road.c

I thought Trek was remarkably upfront for a big (for bikes at least) company deciding to talk about sustainability and where they stand with it. https://road.cc/content/tech-news/trek-releases-its-sustainability-report-outlining-10-steps-285233 https://road.cc/content/tech-news/trek-releases-its-sustaina... I've heard recently that instead of getting electric motorcycles, the market is much more focused on e-bikes because there is less regulation around them.

sjg007 4y ago
You sort of need a total city redesign. I am amazed at how much we rely on cars in the USA. We drive 300 miles for a $40 hotel room In Vegas.
asdff 4y ago
Bougie ebikes honestly go for the price of gas motorcycles these days.
- camtarn 4y ago
  Yep. Motorbikes are surprisingly cheap, e-bikes are surprisingly expensive. The difference though, at least in the UK, is that for a motorbike you have to shell out more money and time to go sit a series of driving tests before you're allowed to ride one; whereas for an e-bike you just strap on a helmet and go. I'm not surprised they're a lot more popular.
  - dendrite9 4y ago
    I live on a bike street that is a neighborhood street designated as a bike route. There's a slight hill, not crazy steep but its noticeable while biking, it has been interesting to see how many ebikes I have started to see out the window especially this last winter.
  - asdff 4y ago
    The driving test is a chicken and egg problem for the motorcycle. Can't buy one and learn on it because you need to be licensed to ride on it. Need to learn on it to get the license. For cars at least you know someone who will lend you a car in most cases, but for motorcycles you are beholden to these motorcycle schools that are going to want a few hundred at least. All this for a vehicle that will in all likelihood probably be stolen by two people and a pickup truck or regularly backed over. I am envious of the lane splitting they are able to do in CA. You basically opt out of traffic when you chose to ride a motorcycle. Plus 100mpg.
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sjg007 4y ago

You sort of need a total city redesign. I am amazed at how much we rely on cars in the USA. We drive 300 miles for a $40 hotel room In Vegas.

asdff 4y ago

Bougie ebikes honestly go for the price of gas motorcycles these days.

camtarn 4y ago
Yep. Motorbikes are surprisingly cheap, e-bikes are surprisingly expensive. The difference though, at least in the UK, is that for a motorbike you have to shell out more money and time to go sit a series of driving tests before you're allowed to ride one; whereas for an e-bike you just strap on a helmet and go. I'm not surprised they're a lot more popular.
- dendrite9 4y ago
  I live on a bike street that is a neighborhood street designated as a bike route. There's a slight hill, not crazy steep but its noticeable while biking, it has been interesting to see how many ebikes I have started to see out the window especially this last winter.
- asdff 4y ago
  The driving test is a chicken and egg problem for the motorcycle. Can't buy one and learn on it because you need to be licensed to ride on it. Need to learn on it to get the license. For cars at least you know someone who will lend you a car in most cases, but for motorcycles you are beholden to these motorcycle schools that are going to want a few hundred at least. All this for a vehicle that will in all likelihood probably be stolen by two people and a pickup truck or regularly backed over. I am envious of the lane splitting they are able to do in CA. You basically opt out of traffic when you chose to ride a motorcycle. Plus 100mpg.

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