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> First, I'd dispute your claim that majority of Badminton pros could go pro in other sports. Definitely some of them, being fast with good hand-eye coordinatio

> First, I'd dispute your claim that majority of Badminton pros could go pro in other sports. Definitely some of them, being fast with good hand-eye coordination is going to get you places. But there's a limit. I was picking a random low remuneration sport and suggesting they have a skillset that could have transferred to a different one. It was a broad example for "choosing between sports is a real conceptual thing that athletes who go pro have implicitly done, though they may not have ever considered the options because they were on a path". > Second. It's not a choice between eSports and traditional sports. The thread above me is literally acting as though it's a comparison between the two paths being offered. It obviously is not, they're wildly different skillsets. All that said, obviously eSports is a terrible life choice rationally, unless you want to spend your "working" life doing a thing you love rather than earning maximal money per unit effort. I respect people who do that, as a rule.

bena 4y ago
You deliberately chose badminton, then made a pretty big claim about those players. Now it feels like you're trying to walk it back into something more vague. Choosing between sports is a thing. But there are tiers. Choosing between different low remuneration sports is a wash. The choice is between levels of remuneration. Which, looking back, is what you claimed. That any given badminton pro has a high chance of becoming an NFL player. As an aside, professional badminton, specifically, is one of those things I think where you wake up some days and realize the very specific things in your life that had to happen to put you where you are. Not something you seek out deliberately. And I'm not even saying they considered other non-sports options. I'm essentially calling it a stupid decision to not do so. These are people, at least in the eSports/CCG scene, who talk a lot about the expected values of things. And the expected value of a pro eSports/CCG pro career is not good. And I never said anything about "earning maximal money per unit effort". I said provide a decent living while not overworking you. In eSports, you have to "earn maximal money per unit effort" just to make a living. I'm saying, they should choose a vocation where they can earn better money for less effort units.
- Ntrails 4y ago
  > You deliberately chose badminton, then made a pretty big claim about those players. I guess what I really meant is that maybe tennis pays better than squash or badminton, but uses very similar skillsets. I was not in anyway proposing they could play in the NFL specifically (hence saying "some other sport") My claim was basically pro sports people are naturally talented at sports - and which sport they ended up playing pro was more likely to be circumstance than considered choice. The rest is you just doubling down on "people should choose jobs not passions". Sure, if you like.
  - bena 4y ago
    Then that's something different than what you said. Football, basketball, baseball, soccer, rugby, these are all "other sports". You said the majority of badminton professionals could do it. I still doubt that. I even doubt that the majority of them could transfer to tennis. Because there are levels to sports. And it's largely based on where the money is. And I'm saying you shouldn't sacrifice yourself for your passions.

bena 4y ago

You deliberately chose badminton, then made a pretty big claim about those players. Now it feels like you're trying to walk it back into something more vague. Choosing between sports is a thing. But there are tiers. Choosing between different low remuneration sports is a wash. The choice is between levels of remuneration. Which, looking back, is what you claimed. That any given badminton pro has a high chance of becoming an NFL player. As an aside, professional badminton, specifically, is one of those things I think where you wake up some days and realize the very specific things in your life that had to happen to put you where you are. Not something you seek out deliberately. And I'm not even saying they considered other non-sports options. I'm essentially calling it a stupid decision to not do so. These are people, at least in the eSports/CCG scene, who talk a lot about the expected values of things. And the expected value of a pro eSports/CCG pro career is not good. And I never said anything about "earning maximal money per unit effort". I said provide a decent living while not overworking you. In eSports, you have to "earn maximal money per unit effort" just to make a living. I'm saying, they should choose a vocation where they can earn better money for less effort units.

Ntrails 4y ago
> You deliberately chose badminton, then made a pretty big claim about those players. I guess what I really meant is that maybe tennis pays better than squash or badminton, but uses very similar skillsets. I was not in anyway proposing they could play in the NFL specifically (hence saying "some other sport") My claim was basically pro sports people are naturally talented at sports - and which sport they ended up playing pro was more likely to be circumstance than considered choice. The rest is you just doubling down on "people should choose jobs not passions". Sure, if you like.
- bena 4y ago
  Then that's something different than what you said. Football, basketball, baseball, soccer, rugby, these are all "other sports". You said the majority of badminton professionals could do it. I still doubt that. I even doubt that the majority of them could transfer to tennis. Because there are levels to sports. And it's largely based on where the money is. And I'm saying you shouldn't sacrifice yourself for your passions.