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I thought about going to WGU instead of a community college/transferring to a private/state school to earn my bachelors, but after starting to apply to WGU it l

by b8 4y ago

I thought about going to WGU instead of a community college/transferring to a private/state school to earn my bachelors, but after starting to apply to WGU it literally seemed like a diploma mil to me. There would be WGU recruiters constantly calling me etc. and overall didn't seem legit to me. So, I decided to go to school for 4-6 years instead. I wonder if places like RenTech would hire someone with a degree from rentech. I think that the DoD hires folks with degrees from UoP, so I'm not surprised they would. I saw a few folks on Linkedin work at Amazon with degrees from WGU and on their website they list that a few students got accepted to grad programs to Harvard etc. [1]. https://www.uopeople.edu/ https://www.uopeople.edu/ WGU reminds me of the uopeople which is in the process of earning regional accreditation. 1. https://www.wgu.edu/alumni/career-support/education-and-professional-paths.html https://www.wgu.edu/alumni/career-support/education-and-prof...

csa 4y ago
> I think that the DoD hires folks with degrees from UoP Most federal government jobs that require a degree only require one from an accredited university. The quality of the degree is not relevant for any but the most sought after positions (e.g., certain state department jobs, federal judge clerkships, etc.). I think some military folks and some GS folks who want to move up to higher jobs but are prevented by the degree requirement often go to places like WGU. Same holds for masters and doctorate degrees.
imwillofficial 4y ago
I’m a student of WGU, and tried UoP, not the same whatsoever. UoP was garbage. Flagged me for fraud on my first test. WGU is what it says it is. Online school with no breaks designed for low friction at the cost of interaction.
no_wizard 4y ago
It really isn't, they hold regional accreditation which, while debatable in total, is much harder to get than national accreditation, because the audit is considered to be much more strict. What WGU is though, is mostly self guided learning, you don't have a traditional professor, you have advisors and pooled resources and group study to drive learning and for asking questions. It does work, if you're a very motivated person and learn well without professor / teacher guidance like you would get at a traditional state school. Is it perfect? No, its definitely not, but its not a diploma mill, and I'd argue its of higher quality than University Of Phoenix and the like. It's not even structured as a for-profit enterprise. WGU filled the gap as a working professional. They're extremely affordable too. Would I advise someone who say, is just graduating high school and can get into a state school or good college with scholarships to pivot over to WGU? No, I wouldn't, but they wouldn't benefit from WGU the same way either at that stage of life IMO.
AviationAtom 4y ago
I am familiar with UoP too, but I got the impression UoP was that it was very much amateur in it's operation. A bunch of idealistic people trying to make education have zero cost barrier to entry. It's simply not feasible to run a college like that at this time. WGU and UoP can not rightfully be put in the same basket.

by b8 4y ago

csa 4y ago

> I think that the DoD hires folks with degrees from UoP Most federal government jobs that require a degree only require one from an accredited university. The quality of the degree is not relevant for any but the most sought after positions (e.g., certain state department jobs, federal judge clerkships, etc.). I think some military folks and some GS folks who want to move up to higher jobs but are prevented by the degree requirement often go to places like WGU. Same holds for masters and doctorate degrees.

imwillofficial 4y ago

I’m a student of WGU, and tried UoP, not the same whatsoever. UoP was garbage. Flagged me for fraud on my first test. WGU is what it says it is. Online school with no breaks designed for low friction at the cost of interaction.

no_wizard 4y ago

It really isn't, they hold regional accreditation which, while debatable in total, is much harder to get than national accreditation, because the audit is considered to be much more strict. What WGU is though, is mostly self guided learning, you don't have a traditional professor, you have advisors and pooled resources and group study to drive learning and for asking questions. It does work, if you're a very motivated person and learn well without professor / teacher guidance like you would get at a traditional state school. Is it perfect? No, its definitely not, but its not a diploma mill, and I'd argue its of higher quality than University Of Phoenix and the like. It's not even structured as a for-profit enterprise. WGU filled the gap as a working professional. They're extremely affordable too. Would I advise someone who say, is just graduating high school and can get into a state school or good college with scholarships to pivot over to WGU? No, I wouldn't, but they wouldn't benefit from WGU the same way either at that stage of life IMO.

AviationAtom 4y ago

I am familiar with UoP too, but I got the impression UoP was that it was very much amateur in it's operation. A bunch of idealistic people trying to make education have zero cost barrier to entry. It's simply not feasible to run a college like that at this time. WGU and UoP can not rightfully be put in the same basket.