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Most people work for money so I would take all this with a grain of salt. If you are a RN what are you going to do if not nursing? The same applies to all field

Most people work for money so I would take all this with a grain of salt. If you are a RN what are you going to do if not nursing? The same applies to all fields including Physicians.

ModernMech 4y ago
Whether or not any particular nurse follows through with thoughts of quitting, all else being equal I think we want nurses who enjoy and want to stay being nurses rather than nurses who are thinking about quitting. Nurses who are happy provide better care than nurses who are so unhappy they want to quit.
chrisseaton 4y ago
> If you are a RN what are you going to do if not nursing? You can do almost any job with almost any degree.
- notch656a 4y ago
  Being able to do it doesn't mean someone will hire you. Almost anyone may be able to become an engineer but you hardly have a prayer of being hired for a well compensated and benefited role unless you have years of experience or a (science or engineering) degree combined with internship(s).
shadowofneptune 4y ago
Both physicians and nurses have a lot of options beyond working at a hospital. Private practice, small clinics, education, consulting, etc. People who will be leaving in these next few years won't necessarily be retiring.
n8cpdx 4y ago
There’s a huge labor shortage, they could do just about anything and get a pretty sizable bonus to sign up. I’ve heard $20k bonus for trucking, local transit agency is offering 7.5k to sign up as a bus driver, police nationwide are desperate and the requirements for the local agency consist of any 2 year degree + being willing to be drug tested, construction industry is trying to recruit women now, etc.
- notch656a 4y ago
  Probably true in certain areas, but nurses are unique in that they occupy one of the few high-wage jobs in rural areas. Nurses, on average, are probably more likely to be in places where it is difficult to find alternative jobs of equal pay. If you're a typical white-collar professional in say some business/science/engineering field you'll typically, unlike nurses, live somewhere with abundant other high wage jobs.
- mrtranscendence 4y ago
  I’m not a nurse, so grain of salt and all that, but I think I’d rather be a nurse than any of those things. And except for (some) trucking, RNs generally get paid more than all of them, I think. There’s a lot of white collar work that only requires a nonspecific college degree, but I’m not aware of such a high demand for for HR staff or accounts payable specialists.
ranci 4y ago
Typically nurses are women. Typically women are married to men. Men worthy of a relationship or marriage to begin with typically have an income significantly higher than min wage, potentially capable of sustaining a family on his own. Nurses are women usually and women have options, usually.
- mrtranscendence 4y ago
  This comment is kooky. Are you implying that one option for women nurses is marrying a higher-income man and becoming a stay-at-home spouse? Men making less than the median for their gender (something like $55k in the US) are still marriageable; plenty of women marry men who can’t support families on their salary alone. Even at the median salary, supporting two people — let alone a larger family — could be a struggle, depending on debts and other commitments. And then there are women who are not married to a man who makes money, either because they remain unmarried or because their husband has lost his job or cannot work for some reason. Further, even if the cards align, it’s not great to be in a position of dependence on your spouse's salary. Sometimes you have to split up and sometimes your spouse dies without leaving significant insurance or inheritance.
  - bhandziuk 4y ago
    I think they're saying that married people might have a little more leeway in changing careers because they have the stability of a second income in their household already.
shadowgovt 4y ago
One interesting thing to spot-check in this study would be geographic distribution. Salary for nurses varies widely, and in some places, they're wage-competitive with Amazon delivery drivers now. I can easily see people deciding that even though they like helping folks, getting paid less than the people who drive around and drop packages all day doesn't seem like a fair deal.

Most people work for money so I would take all this with a grain of salt. If you are a RN what are you going to do if not nursing? The same applies to all fields including Physicians.

ModernMech 4y ago

Whether or not any particular nurse follows through with thoughts of quitting, all else being equal I think we want nurses who enjoy and want to stay being nurses rather than nurses who are thinking about quitting. Nurses who are happy provide better care than nurses who are so unhappy they want to quit.

chrisseaton 4y ago

> If you are a RN what are you going to do if not nursing? You can do almost any job with almost any degree.

notch656a 4y ago
Being able to do it doesn't mean someone will hire you. Almost anyone may be able to become an engineer but you hardly have a prayer of being hired for a well compensated and benefited role unless you have years of experience or a (science or engineering) degree combined with internship(s).

shadowofneptune 4y ago

Both physicians and nurses have a lot of options beyond working at a hospital. Private practice, small clinics, education, consulting, etc. People who will be leaving in these next few years won't necessarily be retiring.

n8cpdx 4y ago

There’s a huge labor shortage, they could do just about anything and get a pretty sizable bonus to sign up. I’ve heard $20k bonus for trucking, local transit agency is offering 7.5k to sign up as a bus driver, police nationwide are desperate and the requirements for the local agency consist of any 2 year degree + being willing to be drug tested, construction industry is trying to recruit women now, etc.

notch656a 4y ago
Probably true in certain areas, but nurses are unique in that they occupy one of the few high-wage jobs in rural areas. Nurses, on average, are probably more likely to be in places where it is difficult to find alternative jobs of equal pay. If you're a typical white-collar professional in say some business/science/engineering field you'll typically, unlike nurses, live somewhere with abundant other high wage jobs.
mrtranscendence 4y ago
I’m not a nurse, so grain of salt and all that, but I think I’d rather be a nurse than any of those things. And except for (some) trucking, RNs generally get paid more than all of them, I think. There’s a lot of white collar work that only requires a nonspecific college degree, but I’m not aware of such a high demand for for HR staff or accounts payable specialists.

ranci 4y ago

Typically nurses are women. Typically women are married to men. Men worthy of a relationship or marriage to begin with typically have an income significantly higher than min wage, potentially capable of sustaining a family on his own. Nurses are women usually and women have options, usually.

mrtranscendence 4y ago
This comment is kooky. Are you implying that one option for women nurses is marrying a higher-income man and becoming a stay-at-home spouse? Men making less than the median for their gender (something like $55k in the US) are still marriageable; plenty of women marry men who can’t support families on their salary alone. Even at the median salary, supporting two people — let alone a larger family — could be a struggle, depending on debts and other commitments. And then there are women who are not married to a man who makes money, either because they remain unmarried or because their husband has lost his job or cannot work for some reason. Further, even if the cards align, it’s not great to be in a position of dependence on your spouse's salary. Sometimes you have to split up and sometimes your spouse dies without leaving significant insurance or inheritance.
- bhandziuk 4y ago
  I think they're saying that married people might have a little more leeway in changing careers because they have the stability of a second income in their household already.

shadowgovt 4y ago

One interesting thing to spot-check in this study would be geographic distribution. Salary for nurses varies widely, and in some places, they're wage-competitive with Amazon delivery drivers now. I can easily see people deciding that even though they like helping folks, getting paid less than the people who drive around and drop packages all day doesn't seem like a fair deal.