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Just because having plaque on your teeth will block acids doesn't mean it's actually a good idea not to clean your teeth. I guess if you could show a study sho

Just because having plaque on your teeth will block acids doesn't mean it's actually a good idea not to clean your teeth. I guess if you could show a study showing that leaving plaque/tartar on teeth leads to better health outcomes I might be interested.

FollowingTheDao 5y ago
If you leave the plaque and tartar on the teeth without fixing the fundamental problem (immune health) then there of course will not be better health outcomes. Caries are a sign of an immune disorder or imbalance. As long as dentists only scrape peoples teeth and do not integrate their health into their practice you will keep having plaques and tartar to be remove as your body fight this battle. https://www.lupus.org/news/people-with-lupus-exhibit-increased-need-for-dental-management https://www.lupus.org/news/people-with-lupus-exhibit-increas...
- sbcd 5y ago
  >Caries are a sign of an immune disorder or imbalance Or just terrible habits like drinking liters of soda everyday. Besides the diabetes, the mix of sugar and acid is terrible for dental health, and contrary to the myth, brushing your teeth will not save them, at all, if one persists in terrible habits.
  - FollowingTheDao 5y ago
    Sugar does not directly cause oral microbiome imbalance. Lipids do. https://www.dentaleconomics.com/science-tech/oral-medicine-anesthetics-and-the-oral-systemic-connection/article/16384999/bacteria-and-lipids https://www.dentaleconomics.com/science-tech/oral-medicine-a...
pessimizer 5y ago
The reason it's a good idea to clean your teeth is because if you don't they'll stink and become discolored. It's not because it keeps them healthy, because cleaning your teeth strips some protection from bacteria and acids away from them while deepening the pockets around them, creating a nice place for disease to live. The idea that intensely cleaning your teeth (and keeping them white) is healthy is an intuitive leap that marketers take advantage of, just like the bad intuition that makes people clean their faces intensely to get rid of skin problems. The reality is more complicated. Clean, pure, healthy, white. Fossils have better teeth than we do, but we have prettier, less fragrant teeth.
- mrguyorama 5y ago
  >Fossils have better teeth than we do, but we have prettier, less fragrant teeth. That's because those fossils had way less access to sugar, which is the main reason we need so much more dental hygiene nowadays.
  - FollowingTheDao 5y ago
    You all think sugar causes tooth decay, no, sorry. It's lipids. Not all bacteria use glucose, most use fatty acids for energy. https://www.dentaleconomics.com/science-tech/oral-medicine-anesthetics-and-the-oral-systemic-connection/article/16384999/bacteria-and-lipids https://www.dentaleconomics.com/science-tech/oral-medicine-a... It is more probably that the sugar throws off lipid metabolic and that changes the oral microbiome.

FollowingTheDao 5y ago

If you leave the plaque and tartar on the teeth without fixing the fundamental problem (immune health) then there of course will not be better health outcomes. Caries are a sign of an immune disorder or imbalance. As long as dentists only scrape peoples teeth and do not integrate their health into their practice you will keep having plaques and tartar to be remove as your body fight this battle. https://www.lupus.org/news/people-with-lupus-exhibit-increased-need-for-dental-management https://www.lupus.org/news/people-with-lupus-exhibit-increas...

sbcd 5y ago
>Caries are a sign of an immune disorder or imbalance Or just terrible habits like drinking liters of soda everyday. Besides the diabetes, the mix of sugar and acid is terrible for dental health, and contrary to the myth, brushing your teeth will not save them, at all, if one persists in terrible habits.
- FollowingTheDao 5y ago
  Sugar does not directly cause oral microbiome imbalance. Lipids do. https://www.dentaleconomics.com/science-tech/oral-medicine-anesthetics-and-the-oral-systemic-connection/article/16384999/bacteria-and-lipids https://www.dentaleconomics.com/science-tech/oral-medicine-a...

pessimizer 5y ago

The reason it's a good idea to clean your teeth is because if you don't they'll stink and become discolored. It's not because it keeps them healthy, because cleaning your teeth strips some protection from bacteria and acids away from them while deepening the pockets around them, creating a nice place for disease to live. The idea that intensely cleaning your teeth (and keeping them white) is healthy is an intuitive leap that marketers take advantage of, just like the bad intuition that makes people clean their faces intensely to get rid of skin problems. The reality is more complicated. Clean, pure, healthy, white. Fossils have better teeth than we do, but we have prettier, less fragrant teeth.

mrguyorama 5y ago
>Fossils have better teeth than we do, but we have prettier, less fragrant teeth. That's because those fossils had way less access to sugar, which is the main reason we need so much more dental hygiene nowadays.
- FollowingTheDao 5y ago
  You all think sugar causes tooth decay, no, sorry. It's lipids. Not all bacteria use glucose, most use fatty acids for energy. https://www.dentaleconomics.com/science-tech/oral-medicine-anesthetics-and-the-oral-systemic-connection/article/16384999/bacteria-and-lipids https://www.dentaleconomics.com/science-tech/oral-medicine-a... It is more probably that the sugar throws off lipid metabolic and that changes the oral microbiome.