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I was doing JS with frameworks circa 2006. I remember mooTools, Dojo Toolkit, Prototype, jQuery, and some others that were around before 2010. Unless we have ve

I was doing JS with frameworks circa 2006. I remember mooTools, Dojo Toolkit, Prototype, jQuery, and some others that were around before 2010. Unless we have very different meanings for the word framework. I consider Prototype, Dojo Toolkit and mooTools frameworks while I think of jQuery as a library.

teknopurge 4y ago
mootools was awesome. I always wondered why it was so fun(for me at least) to use.
cmrdporcupine 4y ago
Yep, mochikit was another one that I liked. I worked at a company around 2001 that was doing a full "Ajax" style frontend for a dashboard product for some industrial control systems. But it worked in IE only, as the Ajax pieces were not available on the other browsers yet.
brightball 4y ago
Prototype, Dojo and mooTools! Memories. I remember discovering any of these existed after doing an entire AJAX frontend site with raw JS that continued to work cross browser for the next 10 years. Made me full appreciate the value of those frameworks. IIRC JSON wasn't even really a thing yet.
spookthesunset 4y ago
I don't even think mooTools and friends were really frameworks as we know them today. They were really just some kind of standard library that let you plug in fancy UX widgets and stuff... I dunno if the distinction really matters though. But I do know they weren't even in the same league of frameworks like angular or react. I guess the difference is these new frameworks are all about letting javascript generate virtually the entire page. MooTools and friends were designed where the majority of the page was old-fashioned HTML being spat out by the backend.
afavour 4y ago
To my mind MooTools and jQuery were roughly equivalent in functionality. Am I misremembering?
Klonoar 4y ago
There's really three distinctions, in my mind: 1) Libraries (jQuery/Prototype/MooTools/etc) (Beginning - ~2010ish) 2) Widget-frameworks (YUI, Dojo, jQueryUI, etc) (mid-2000s - ~2013ish) 3) Data-orientied Frameworks (Backbone-onwards) (~early 2010s - current) Edit: (Four, maybe, if you divide 1 into a 1/0 era, with 0 being the "rando DHTML scripts that many didn't really understand" era)

teknopurge 4y ago

mootools was awesome. I always wondered why it was so fun(for me at least) to use.

cmrdporcupine 4y ago

Yep, mochikit was another one that I liked. I worked at a company around 2001 that was doing a full "Ajax" style frontend for a dashboard product for some industrial control systems. But it worked in IE only, as the Ajax pieces were not available on the other browsers yet.

brightball 4y ago

Prototype, Dojo and mooTools! Memories. I remember discovering any of these existed after doing an entire AJAX frontend site with raw JS that continued to work cross browser for the next 10 years. Made me full appreciate the value of those frameworks. IIRC JSON wasn't even really a thing yet.

spookthesunset 4y ago

I don't even think mooTools and friends were really frameworks as we know them today. They were really just some kind of standard library that let you plug in fancy UX widgets and stuff... I dunno if the distinction really matters though. But I do know they weren't even in the same league of frameworks like angular or react. I guess the difference is these new frameworks are all about letting javascript generate virtually the entire page. MooTools and friends were designed where the majority of the page was old-fashioned HTML being spat out by the backend.

afavour 4y ago

To my mind MooTools and jQuery were roughly equivalent in functionality. Am I misremembering?

Klonoar 4y ago

There's really three distinctions, in my mind: 1) Libraries (jQuery/Prototype/MooTools/etc) (Beginning - ~2010ish) 2) Widget-frameworks (YUI, Dojo, jQueryUI, etc) (mid-2000s - ~2013ish) 3) Data-orientied Frameworks (Backbone-onwards) (~early 2010s - current) Edit: (Four, maybe, if you divide 1 into a 1/0 era, with 0 being the "rando DHTML scripts that many didn't really understand" era)