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I wish it scaled in Sweden. It's a flat 4000 SEK here, regardless of income.

loopbit 4y ago
OP was probably thinking of Finland.
jeltz 4y ago
It scales in Finland though which is probably what parent was thinking of. And we do have scaling fines here in Sweden, just not for minor traffic offences. I think we should change all normal fines to scaling fines (dagsböter).
- tapland 4y ago
  Yeah. Fines here (static) can be broken out of convenience for the wealthy (see new SUVs parked illegally on small streets in central Stockholm). It feels like breaking traffic regulations should maybe be considered crimes with dagsböter (income based penalty).
- taotau 4y ago
  How is it calculated for non residents. How much would Elon pay if he were caught speeding in Finland?
  - nikonyrh 4y ago
    In general as a percentage of the last year's income. "In 2002, a Nokia executive was fined the equivalent of $103,000 for going 45 in a 30 zone on his motorcycle." Elon's fine could easily be 10x that but maybe not 100x. I don't know his finances and I'm not sure how capital gains are included.
GlassKingdom 4y ago
Everything people say about Sweden on the Internet is wrong. It should be called “Sven’s Law” or something.
- foobar1962 4y ago
  The law should have a name that sounds Swedish, at least to people outside Sweden, but actually isn't.
  - mikestew 4y ago
    Seems to me that a Swiss name would be most appropriate.
- boringg 4y ago
  I hear that health care is free, it's always summer, the people are beautiful and there are no problems whatsoever in Sweden. Can you confirm?
  - silicon2401 4y ago
    Having been to Sweden, I can confirm > it's always summer, is false. I went in winter and it was dark by 3pm. I love the cold and dark, so it was awesome for me > the people are beautiful is true. I was constantly stupefied by how attractive people are there. Also, I'm a 184cm male, and every single day I saw multiple women taller than me, just going about town. Not like I was at a basketball training center or something.
    - oh_sigh 4y ago
      I hear this a lot and I just don't understand. People in Stockholm seem about as attractive to me as the people I see in the US in NYC. I sometimes think it is just a blonde-fetish or something. I guess you were walking around a city and had to see thousands of people to see multiple women taller than you? The average female adult height in Sweden is still only 165cm, with > 95% of women being less than 178cm. I'd imagine 99+% of Swedish women are < 184cm.
      - indigochill 4y ago
        > People in Stockholm seem about as attractive to me as the people I see in the US in NYC. I live elsewhere in Scandinavia and although I sometimes have a feeling the people are more attractive here than in the states as a general rule, I think it's actually that I have a preference for the local fashion. I tend to like Pacific Northwest fashion as well, and there are some similarities. However, people in Scandinavia also generally walk a lot more than their US counterparts (since European cities are built for walking and American cities are generally not) so I find it plausible that they're more fit on average. I don't know if NYC is unusually walkable for an American city.

OP was probably thinking of Finland.

It scales in Finland though which is probably what parent was thinking of. And we do have scaling fines here in Sweden, just not for minor traffic offences. I think we should change all normal fines to scaling fines (dagsböter).

tapland 4y ago
Yeah. Fines here (static) can be broken out of convenience for the wealthy (see new SUVs parked illegally on small streets in central Stockholm). It feels like breaking traffic regulations should maybe be considered crimes with dagsböter (income based penalty).
taotau 4y ago
How is it calculated for non residents. How much would Elon pay if he were caught speeding in Finland?
- nikonyrh 4y ago
  In general as a percentage of the last year's income. "In 2002, a Nokia executive was fined the equivalent of $103,000 for going 45 in a 30 zone on his motorcycle." Elon's fine could easily be 10x that but maybe not 100x. I don't know his finances and I'm not sure how capital gains are included.

GlassKingdom 4y ago

Everything people say about Sweden on the Internet is wrong. It should be called “Sven’s Law” or something.

foobar1962 4y ago
The law should have a name that sounds Swedish, at least to people outside Sweden, but actually isn't.
- mikestew 4y ago
  Seems to me that a Swiss name would be most appropriate.
boringg 4y ago
I hear that health care is free, it's always summer, the people are beautiful and there are no problems whatsoever in Sweden. Can you confirm?
- silicon2401 4y ago
  Having been to Sweden, I can confirm > it's always summer, is false. I went in winter and it was dark by 3pm. I love the cold and dark, so it was awesome for me > the people are beautiful is true. I was constantly stupefied by how attractive people are there. Also, I'm a 184cm male, and every single day I saw multiple women taller than me, just going about town. Not like I was at a basketball training center or something.
  - oh_sigh 4y ago
    I hear this a lot and I just don't understand. People in Stockholm seem about as attractive to me as the people I see in the US in NYC. I sometimes think it is just a blonde-fetish or something. I guess you were walking around a city and had to see thousands of people to see multiple women taller than you? The average female adult height in Sweden is still only 165cm, with > 95% of women being less than 178cm. I'd imagine 99+% of Swedish women are < 184cm.
    - indigochill 4y ago
      > People in Stockholm seem about as attractive to me as the people I see in the US in NYC. I live elsewhere in Scandinavia and although I sometimes have a feeling the people are more attractive here than in the states as a general rule, I think it's actually that I have a preference for the local fashion. I tend to like Pacific Northwest fashion as well, and there are some similarities. However, people in Scandinavia also generally walk a lot more than their US counterparts (since European cities are built for walking and American cities are generally not) so I find it plausible that they're more fit on average. I don't know if NYC is unusually walkable for an American city.