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Javascript UI? dealbreaker

by rubyist5eva 4y ago

woojoo666 4y ago
Why does the choice of programming language matter to the end user?
- ac130kz 4y ago
  Interface responsiveness matters
  - tepitoperrito 4y ago
    Programming in languages other than assembly or C doesn't preclude you from implementing a responsive GUI
    - ac130kz 4y ago
      Sure, yet apps like Spacedrive use sluggish React with shadow DOM
  - woojoo666 4y ago
    VSCode (an electron app) is pretty responsive in my experience
    - ac130kz 4y ago
      VSCode devs do some magic trickery to improve Electron's performance, but it is by design not in the league of Neovim or even fully fledged Qt Creator in terms of responsiveness.
      - woojoo666 4y ago
        Considering the popularity of VS Code over NeoVim and Qt Creator, I guess it's responsiveness is good enough for the vast majority
        dotancohen 4y ago
        Whatsapp is good enough for the vast majority too. Doesn't mean that I'll subject myself to it.
        ac130kz 4y ago
        I use all these editors, and I'd say that for purely editining purposes Neovim feels incredibly responsive, it's something that requires the whole UI framework to be fast. What keeps me from switching from VSCode are its great plugins
        KrishnaShripad 4y ago
        It is popular yes. But with NeoVim I feel so damn productive. VS Code feels sluggish compared to NeoVim. At least for me.
    - rishav_sharan 4y ago
      Teams would be on the other end of the spectrum.
  - 0xy 4y ago
    The native Mac Finder app is very unresponsive and clunky and I don't think there's any JS involved.
    - ac130kz 4y ago
      Well, it may scan the file system, which takes a heck of a long time, even on an NVMe drive. Or they broke the fuzzy finder/caching mechanism
    - rubyist5eva 4y ago
      Try Pathfinder, worth every penny in my opinion.
- rubyist5eva 4y ago
  Because every single JavaScript UI I use is a bloated, slow mess - even “optimized” apps like vscode feel like sludge to me compared to Sublime Text or Nova. Last thing I want is a sluggish file manager that uses a crap tone of memory with a bunch of “ui renderer processes”. Check out Pathfinder for a power user file manager done right.

Javascript UI? dealbreaker

woojoo666 4y ago

Why does the choice of programming language matter to the end user?

ac130kz 4y ago
Interface responsiveness matters
- tepitoperrito 4y ago
  Programming in languages other than assembly or C doesn't preclude you from implementing a responsive GUI
  - ac130kz 4y ago
    Sure, yet apps like Spacedrive use sluggish React with shadow DOM
- woojoo666 4y ago
  VSCode (an electron app) is pretty responsive in my experience
  - ac130kz 4y ago
    VSCode devs do some magic trickery to improve Electron's performance, but it is by design not in the league of Neovim or even fully fledged Qt Creator in terms of responsiveness.
    - woojoo666 4y ago
      Considering the popularity of VS Code over NeoVim and Qt Creator, I guess it's responsiveness is good enough for the vast majority
      - dotancohen 4y ago
        Whatsapp is good enough for the vast majority too. Doesn't mean that I'll subject myself to it.
      - ac130kz 4y ago
        I use all these editors, and I'd say that for purely editining purposes Neovim feels incredibly responsive, it's something that requires the whole UI framework to be fast. What keeps me from switching from VSCode are its great plugins
      - KrishnaShripad 4y ago
        It is popular yes. But with NeoVim I feel so damn productive. VS Code feels sluggish compared to NeoVim. At least for me.
  - rishav_sharan 4y ago
    Teams would be on the other end of the spectrum.
- 0xy 4y ago
  The native Mac Finder app is very unresponsive and clunky and I don't think there's any JS involved.
  - ac130kz 4y ago
    Well, it may scan the file system, which takes a heck of a long time, even on an NVMe drive. Or they broke the fuzzy finder/caching mechanism
  - rubyist5eva 4y ago
    Try Pathfinder, worth every penny in my opinion.
rubyist5eva 4y ago
Because every single JavaScript UI I use is a bloated, slow mess - even “optimized” apps like vscode feel like sludge to me compared to Sublime Text or Nova. Last thing I want is a sluggish file manager that uses a crap tone of memory with a bunch of “ui renderer processes”. Check out Pathfinder for a power user file manager done right.