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I wonder what Snowden thinks of having to live in Russia now with the war in Ukraine. It must be a little awkward.

by bostonsre 4y ago

farias0 4y ago
Why? He used to work for the American government for god's sake
- bostonsre 4y ago
  I'm biased but I think Russia's invasion and the way they are slaughtering civilians is a lot worse than the missteps that caused Snowden to disclose American secrets. Russia is also spiraling into an incredibly authoritarian police state that is much worse than what he was trying to prevent in America.
  - farias0 4y ago
    I'm not talking about the NSA spying on American citizens. I'm talking about America slaughtering civilians in half of the middle east.
mhh__ 4y ago
Didn't he basically say "OK I was wrong, I'm gonna shut up" over the war?
- farias0 4y ago
  That was because he had said he doubted Russia would invade Ukraine. I doubt he feels differently about seeking asylum, considering the alternative.
soraminazuki 4y ago
I imagine it's awful considering that it wasn't his choice to stay there. He got stranded there in transit because his passport was revoked.
FFRefresh 4y ago
He appears to have went off the grid over the last 2 months. I imagine it's a very tumultuous time for him. Russia knows the US really wants to extradite him, and there will inevitably be rounds of negotiations as time moves forward. He may be a potential negotiating piece if the Russians are looking for concessions from Ukraine/NATO. (this is all speculation, but he has went dark)
- paulpauper 4y ago
  he went off the grid because he had to choose between his safety or his public image/career. he wisely chose the former. last tweet feb 27th https://mobile.twitter.com/Snowden/status/1498049577131208705 https://mobile.twitter.com/Snowden/status/149804957713120870...
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > he went off the grid because he had to choose between his safety or his public image/career. It is kind of weird that you suggest that (not, on its own, an implausible guess) and link to the tweet where he rather angrily denies exactly that characterization as support.
    - paulpauper 4y ago
      you know, he could dispel that rumor by ...tweeting again .
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > He appears to have went off the grid over the last 2 months. He really blew his credibility pushing the “Russia isn’t going to attack” propaganda line (ostensibly, as his own independent analysis of the situation), and his last tweet (3 days after the attack, his prior being 3 days before) was: “I’m not suspended from the ceiling above a barrel of acid by a rope that burns a little faster every time I tweet, you concern-trolling ghouls. I’ve just lost any confidence I had that sharing my thinking on this particular topic continues to be useful, because I called it wrong.”

I wonder what Snowden thinks of having to live in Russia now with the war in Ukraine. It must be a little awkward.

farias0 4y ago

Why? He used to work for the American government for god's sake

bostonsre 4y ago
I'm biased but I think Russia's invasion and the way they are slaughtering civilians is a lot worse than the missteps that caused Snowden to disclose American secrets. Russia is also spiraling into an incredibly authoritarian police state that is much worse than what he was trying to prevent in America.
- farias0 4y ago
  I'm not talking about the NSA spying on American citizens. I'm talking about America slaughtering civilians in half of the middle east.

mhh__ 4y ago

Didn't he basically say "OK I was wrong, I'm gonna shut up" over the war?

farias0 4y ago
That was because he had said he doubted Russia would invade Ukraine. I doubt he feels differently about seeking asylum, considering the alternative.

soraminazuki 4y ago

I imagine it's awful considering that it wasn't his choice to stay there. He got stranded there in transit because his passport was revoked.

FFRefresh 4y ago

He appears to have went off the grid over the last 2 months. I imagine it's a very tumultuous time for him. Russia knows the US really wants to extradite him, and there will inevitably be rounds of negotiations as time moves forward. He may be a potential negotiating piece if the Russians are looking for concessions from Ukraine/NATO. (this is all speculation, but he has went dark)

paulpauper 4y ago
he went off the grid because he had to choose between his safety or his public image/career. he wisely chose the former. last tweet feb 27th https://mobile.twitter.com/Snowden/status/1498049577131208705 https://mobile.twitter.com/Snowden/status/149804957713120870...
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > he went off the grid because he had to choose between his safety or his public image/career. It is kind of weird that you suggest that (not, on its own, an implausible guess) and link to the tweet where he rather angrily denies exactly that characterization as support.
  - paulpauper 4y ago
    you know, he could dispel that rumor by ...tweeting again .
dragonwriter 4y ago
> He appears to have went off the grid over the last 2 months. He really blew his credibility pushing the “Russia isn’t going to attack” propaganda line (ostensibly, as his own independent analysis of the situation), and his last tweet (3 days after the attack, his prior being 3 days before) was: “I’m not suspended from the ceiling above a barrel of acid by a rope that burns a little faster every time I tweet, you concern-trolling ghouls. I’ve just lost any confidence I had that sharing my thinking on this particular topic continues to be useful, because I called it wrong.”