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> your children are turned into a mindless vassals—who now, watch some teenager dancing, instead of watching YouTube videos about Thomas Jefferson, or Nikola Te

> your children are turned into a mindless vassals—who now, watch some teenager dancing, instead of watching YouTube videos about Thomas Jefferson, or Nikola Tesla, or even Magellan; I mean, kids, Magellan is a lot cooler than Justin Bieber! Not sure what kind of a reality you live in or whether this is a satirical comment, but pretty sure that before TikTok existed, kids were not en-masse spending their time on YouTube watching educational videos about Thomas Jefferson or Magellan. Also, kind of weird to bring up Justin Bieber, given his peak popularity among children happened over half a decade ago. TikTok has nothing to do with his popularity.

samhw 5y ago
>> instead of watching YouTube videos about Thomas Jefferson, or Nikola Tesla, or even Magellan > Not sure what kind of a reality you live in This sounds like a neckbeard fantasy of what an 'intellectual' childhood is like. In reality, I doubt any child has been raised that way since John Stuart Mill, and he was suicidal by 20. Fwiw, I went to a school whose students, well- if anyone in the world were raised as described by that commenter, those would be the people. I can say without a doubt that the kids whose parents were even approaching that kind of attitude are the ones who grew up more depressed, and no more accomplished. (My underlying point is that, needless hopefully to say, no one has ever grown up without idle entertainment. Well, short of cavemen, maybe. This whole "take previous generations'/societies' high culture and assume it's what everyone did day in day out" is one of the most irritating of the neckbeard tropes, in a strong field of competitors.)
sidcool 5y ago
The OPs comment was deleted when I read it, so the following is based on your reply. The OP seems to have made a bad choice of words, paranoid and conspiratory. However, the sentiment, in a milder form, is something I can relate to. The adverse impact of TikTok, Reels and Shorts are being studied and the early findings are alarming. It will have a civilisation level impact by the end of the decade. Even with the learning channels. They can add to the addiction of the nerds.
- samhw 5y ago
  > It will have a civilisation level impact by the end of the decade. The trouble is that this is almost totally meaningless. Everything that exists in civilisation has a 'civilisation level impact'. If you quantify it - say, "will be the end of civilisation" - then it becomes so silly that I should hope you wouldn't think that. This is not the first generation to have parlour games.
- filoleg 5y ago
  Shame that the parent comment was flagged, because the quote I used from there and my reply were pretty mild considering the rest of the parent comment. I also find it pretty ironic that OP tried posting their own content on TikTok about C++ not that long ago, someone in the comments called them a boomer (not making any of this up, you can easily verify it), and then the OP decided to do full 180 on TikTok and declare it a brainrotting empire of evil that was designed by CCP to defeat the west. I enabled "showdead" in settings, so that I can copypaste that flagged/deleted parent comment for everyone else to see. Everything below this sentence is just a direct copy of that content. >> * YouTube ad revenue: $6.87B vs $7.51B expected >> MISSED because children are watching TikTok instead of YouTube. China has infected the minds of our youth, they have robbed the Western world of our future! >> Scroll through TikTok you realize how mindlessly fake it all is; the dancing, the music, the Charli D’Amelio, the Justin Bieber—you know, the app who promotes videos of kids destroying their school bathrooms. Pretty soon they’ll tell your kids they gotta love Charli D’Amelio, and then Charli says "hand in your guns", "recognize the South China Sea", and "the police state is good", and then your children are turned into a mindless vassals—who now, watch some teenager dancing, instead of watching YouTube videos about Thomas Jefferson, or Nikola Tesla, or even Magellan; I mean, kids, Magellan is a lot cooler than Justin Bieber! >> He circumnavigated with one ship the entire planet! He was killed by wild natives before they got back to Portugal! And when they got back there was only like eleven people alive of the two hundred and something crew and the entire ship was rotting down to the waterline! That's destiny! That's will! That's striving! That's being a trailblazer and an explorer! Going into space, mathematics, quantum mechanics, the secrets of the universe—It's all there on YouTube for kids to learn about! Life is fiery with its beauty! See its incredible detail in YouTube’s 8K! Tune into it! >> China and TikTok wanna shutter our children’s mind, talking about Justin Bieber! It's pure evil! They're taking your child’s intellect, their soul, and giving you Charli D’Amelio and Bieber. We need to unlock their human potential! Defeat the CCP who wanna shutter their mind!—your doorways to perception!—I wanna see them truly live! I wanna see them truly be who they are!

samhw 5y ago

>> instead of watching YouTube videos about Thomas Jefferson, or Nikola Tesla, or even Magellan > Not sure what kind of a reality you live in This sounds like a neckbeard fantasy of what an 'intellectual' childhood is like. In reality, I doubt any child has been raised that way since John Stuart Mill, and he was suicidal by 20. Fwiw, I went to a school whose students, well- if anyone in the world were raised as described by that commenter, those would be the people. I can say without a doubt that the kids whose parents were even approaching that kind of attitude are the ones who grew up more depressed, and no more accomplished. (My underlying point is that, needless hopefully to say, no one has ever grown up without idle entertainment. Well, short of cavemen, maybe. This whole "take previous generations'/societies' high culture and assume it's what everyone did day in day out" is one of the most irritating of the neckbeard tropes, in a strong field of competitors.)

sidcool 5y ago

The OPs comment was deleted when I read it, so the following is based on your reply. The OP seems to have made a bad choice of words, paranoid and conspiratory. However, the sentiment, in a milder form, is something I can relate to. The adverse impact of TikTok, Reels and Shorts are being studied and the early findings are alarming. It will have a civilisation level impact by the end of the decade. Even with the learning channels. They can add to the addiction of the nerds.

samhw 5y ago
> It will have a civilisation level impact by the end of the decade. The trouble is that this is almost totally meaningless. Everything that exists in civilisation has a 'civilisation level impact'. If you quantify it - say, "will be the end of civilisation" - then it becomes so silly that I should hope you wouldn't think that. This is not the first generation to have parlour games.
filoleg 5y ago
Shame that the parent comment was flagged, because the quote I used from there and my reply were pretty mild considering the rest of the parent comment. I also find it pretty ironic that OP tried posting their own content on TikTok about C++ not that long ago, someone in the comments called them a boomer (not making any of this up, you can easily verify it), and then the OP decided to do full 180 on TikTok and declare it a brainrotting empire of evil that was designed by CCP to defeat the west. I enabled "showdead" in settings, so that I can copypaste that flagged/deleted parent comment for everyone else to see. Everything below this sentence is just a direct copy of that content. >> * YouTube ad revenue: $6.87B vs $7.51B expected >> MISSED because children are watching TikTok instead of YouTube. China has infected the minds of our youth, they have robbed the Western world of our future! >> Scroll through TikTok you realize how mindlessly fake it all is; the dancing, the music, the Charli D’Amelio, the Justin Bieber—you know, the app who promotes videos of kids destroying their school bathrooms. Pretty soon they’ll tell your kids they gotta love Charli D’Amelio, and then Charli says "hand in your guns", "recognize the South China Sea", and "the police state is good", and then your children are turned into a mindless vassals—who now, watch some teenager dancing, instead of watching YouTube videos about Thomas Jefferson, or Nikola Tesla, or even Magellan; I mean, kids, Magellan is a lot cooler than Justin Bieber! >> He circumnavigated with one ship the entire planet! He was killed by wild natives before they got back to Portugal! And when they got back there was only like eleven people alive of the two hundred and something crew and the entire ship was rotting down to the waterline! That's destiny! That's will! That's striving! That's being a trailblazer and an explorer! Going into space, mathematics, quantum mechanics, the secrets of the universe—It's all there on YouTube for kids to learn about! Life is fiery with its beauty! See its incredible detail in YouTube’s 8K! Tune into it! >> China and TikTok wanna shutter our children’s mind, talking about Justin Bieber! It's pure evil! They're taking your child’s intellect, their soul, and giving you Charli D’Amelio and Bieber. We need to unlock their human potential! Defeat the CCP who wanna shutter their mind!—your doorways to perception!—I wanna see them truly live! I wanna see them truly be who they are!