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Well if there was any question whether the EU was more focused on personal data protections or kneecapping U.S. tech companies, this answers it. The reason Goog

Well if there was any question whether the EU was more focused on personal data protections or kneecapping U.S. tech companies, this answers it. The reason Google and MS want to get their own browsers onto iOS is to get around the data collecting restrictions built into Safari. This will be a net negative for the personal data privacy of EU citizens. But hey, screw Apple right?

alexvoda 5y ago
Not at all. It's about time someone did something about Safari. If Microsoft preinstalling IE was bad, Apple's mandating Safari as the only browser ever is worse. Both leveraged their position in a situation to gain dominance in e different situation. Also, Chrome domination is just as bad as IE domination, but it came about differently.
zamadatix 5y ago
Safari isn't the best answer for user privacy either so why grandstand for it as the only thing users should be allowed to run if that's your only concern? There is always a worse option to point at but that doesn't somehow mean Safari should be the only option.
- Terretta 5y ago
  But Chrome should be the only (inevitable) option? Smartphones with ”Google Inside(tm)” should be (effectively) the only option? As a consumer I care quite a lot about not requiring Google inside my phone, or on my desktop. The tendrils they have in sites are quite enough already, I don’t need them on both server and client… Knowing Android gets me Google, I chose a device that couldn’t be consumed by the borg, and spoke with my money on that. And as a result, my bank, my airline, my social media, all have to support more than one browser engine if they want affluent customer share. I have zero trust in this developer community clamoring for an open web simply so they stop having to test in any browser other than the one they install for dev. This site^H^H^H^H app requires Chrome. // Building websites since 1993 — none of this noise is new, just naive.
  - zamadatix 5y ago
    Again if your goal is to mandate "not Chrome" it doesn't follow that specifically Safari should be the only option on iOS devices. More likely the goal for users is to prevent is a set of activity, e.g. Chrome is doing, via policy and actively promote choice/competition. This is exactly how things are being legislated in Europe and is a better option than supporting just 2 inevitable options depending on the device the user owns.

alexvoda 5y ago

Not at all. It's about time someone did something about Safari. If Microsoft preinstalling IE was bad, Apple's mandating Safari as the only browser ever is worse. Both leveraged their position in a situation to gain dominance in e different situation. Also, Chrome domination is just as bad as IE domination, but it came about differently.

zamadatix 5y ago

Safari isn't the best answer for user privacy either so why grandstand for it as the only thing users should be allowed to run if that's your only concern? There is always a worse option to point at but that doesn't somehow mean Safari should be the only option.

Terretta 5y ago
But Chrome should be the only (inevitable) option? Smartphones with ”Google Inside(tm)” should be (effectively) the only option? As a consumer I care quite a lot about not requiring Google inside my phone, or on my desktop. The tendrils they have in sites are quite enough already, I don’t need them on both server and client… Knowing Android gets me Google, I chose a device that couldn’t be consumed by the borg, and spoke with my money on that. And as a result, my bank, my airline, my social media, all have to support more than one browser engine if they want affluent customer share. I have zero trust in this developer community clamoring for an open web simply so they stop having to test in any browser other than the one they install for dev. This site^H^H^H^H app requires Chrome. // Building websites since 1993 — none of this noise is new, just naive.
- zamadatix 5y ago
  Again if your goal is to mandate "not Chrome" it doesn't follow that specifically Safari should be the only option on iOS devices. More likely the goal for users is to prevent is a set of activity, e.g. Chrome is doing, via policy and actively promote choice/competition. This is exactly how things are being legislated in Europe and is a better option than supporting just 2 inevitable options depending on the device the user owns.