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If being a traitor was such a big thing I would have imagined the attempt to overthrow the election on 6th January 2020 would have been more broadly opposed. Wh
by smcl 5y ago
If being a traitor was such a big thing I would have imagined the attempt to overthrow the election on 6th January 2020 would have been more broadly opposed. What is more traitorous than attempting a coup?
My point is not to relitigate old battles though - people like and dislike stuff based on their gut, which is fairly arbitrary and sometimes contradictory and I am not immune to that myself. My point was that it's interesting one person gets a pass for being universally awful and another has their role in a revolutionary war completely boiled down to "Benedict Arnold bad!" when the story is "Benedict Arnold bad ... but also at one point good, and interesting and worth reading about"
- stonogo 5y agoThere are (so far) 862 criminal charges filed regarding that incident, with more on the way. How broad would you like your opposition?
- rootusrootus 5y agoI expect that GP meant broadly opposed [amongst the population]. You could argue that even with this assumption, it would qualify, as 7 in 10 Americans do think the insurrection was wrong. But I can see the merit in arguing that 3 in 10 supporting it is uncomfortably high.
- nescioquid 5y agoI read the parent to mean that -- apparently in some cases -- actions alone are insufficient to indicate treason: the actor has to be seen as a traitor. Hence the apparent disjunction between the general regard of Americans for Benedict Arnold and Trump.
- ncmncm 5y agoMostly misdemeanors. Very few got as many as four years, probably most will be out in much less than their sentence. Not like the patriots who exposed war crimes.
- smcl 5y agoWell a pretty sizeable chunk of the population believe it was a good thing and don't appear to be discouraged in any way by those charges