I start to hate the term whataboutism - this is none. I am not justifying one situation with another, I am just demanding consistent judgment of similar situati

I start to hate the term whataboutism - this is none. I am not justifying one situation with another, I am just demanding consistent judgment of similar situations. This is also why it does not really matter that it was 60 years ago. You say the United States handled Cuba incorrectly, I do not know what exactly that means, but this is also not too important as long as you are consistent. We will probably disagree at least somewhat in our judgment. In my opinion it was not unreasonable for the United States to demand no missiles on Cuba given the tensions and mutual distrust in order to not increase tensions further. I could maybe also understand if Cuba or the Soviet Union had rejected that demand as reasonable in principle but not justifiable in this specific situation because of the aggression by the United States. In the end the Soviet Union did the right thing and deescalated. And they still got somewhat screwed by the United States because the concessions by the United States were no real concessions - removing the missiles from Turkey was already planned before the crisis because they were obsolete. In consequence I also think that it is not a totally unreasonable demand from Russia to not want NATO at all its borders. With that said, is still do not think that attacking Ukraine is an acceptable way to achieve this, for example sabotaging or destroying NATO military installations once they pop up in Ukraine would seem much more justifiable. But then again, once Ukraine is a NATO member, Russia would have to deal with article 5. In the end I think this should never have escalated this far to begin with, Ukraine and NATO should maybe have aimed for a limited membership like Norway or no NATO membership at all. This is of course only reasonable if you think that sovereign states sometimes have to accept limits to their sovereignty because of the interest of other states. You can of course disagree with this, but then I would ask you, for example, for your opinion on the destruction of Iranian centrifuges by Stuxnet. Justified or an act of war? I also want you to consider that it is easy from today's perspective to argue that the United States should just have accepted Soviet missiles in Cuba, therefore it might be better to consider how the United States would act today if China and Mexico reached a deal to station Chinese military assets in Mexico in exchange for economic support, maybe not even missiles but say a lot of ground forces. Would the United States be fine with that? And you can of course completely reject the idea that NATO expansion is an important factor for the Russian aggression, then the discussion has to shift completely to evidence for different explanations.