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You tell me? YouTube is currently not a public utility. Argue why it should be? There are plenty of places to publish videos. Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, Vimeo,

by juve1996 5y ago

You tell me? YouTube is currently not a public utility. Argue why it should be? There are plenty of places to publish videos. Twitter, Reddit, Facebook, Vimeo, Daily Motion, Twitch, Instagram, TikTok, etc. So it is obviously not scarce or difficult to do, with that many players. So it fails that definition of a utility, it's not scarce, nor difficult to implement. Is it necessary? I don't think so. What basic necessities does Twitter provide?

mysecretaccount 5y ago
> You tell me? YouTube is currently not a public utility. Argue why it should be? Access to the internet is also not currently a public utility. And yet, some seem to be fine with government censoring speech via one of these non-public-utilities and not okay with it through another. My point is that there is no reason good reason to treat them differently. There are bad reasons to treat them differently, though, which are covered extensively on this page and mostly due to our conditioning by gov and ISPs alike.
- juve1996 5y ago
  Obviously broadband is not a utility yet, although there is massive support to making it one, and it probably should be. But let's ignore the semantic tricks and change the argument slightly. Why is YouTube equivalent to Electricity/Water? The utility argument just doesn't make sense. Perhaps you're thinking more of the "public square" argument. > My point is that there is no reason good reason to treat them differently. There are bad reasons to treat them differently, though, which are covered extensively on this page and mostly due to our conditioning by gov and ISPs alike. I see many reasons to treat utilities different than YouTube, and I also see no reason why YouTube should be treated like them. There are too many private remedies available. On top of that, the government should not be forcing any private entity to moderate a certain way, this sets an extremely dangerous precedent, and will certainly be abused. I should be able to moderate my blog how I choose.
  - mysecretaccount 5y ago
    > Obviously broadband is not a utility yet, although there is massive support to making it one, and it probably should be. But let's ignore the semantic tricks and change the argument slightly. > Why is YouTube equivalent to Electricity/Water? This is not the comparison I am making. I am comparing YouTube to ISPs and claiming that arguments for or against censorship in the former could also apply to the latter.

mysecretaccount 5y ago

> You tell me? YouTube is currently not a public utility. Argue why it should be? Access to the internet is also not currently a public utility. And yet, some seem to be fine with government censoring speech via one of these non-public-utilities and not okay with it through another. My point is that there is no reason good reason to treat them differently. There are bad reasons to treat them differently, though, which are covered extensively on this page and mostly due to our conditioning by gov and ISPs alike.

juve1996 5y ago
Obviously broadband is not a utility yet, although there is massive support to making it one, and it probably should be. But let's ignore the semantic tricks and change the argument slightly. Why is YouTube equivalent to Electricity/Water? The utility argument just doesn't make sense. Perhaps you're thinking more of the "public square" argument. > My point is that there is no reason good reason to treat them differently. There are bad reasons to treat them differently, though, which are covered extensively on this page and mostly due to our conditioning by gov and ISPs alike. I see many reasons to treat utilities different than YouTube, and I also see no reason why YouTube should be treated like them. There are too many private remedies available. On top of that, the government should not be forcing any private entity to moderate a certain way, this sets an extremely dangerous precedent, and will certainly be abused. I should be able to moderate my blog how I choose.
- mysecretaccount 5y ago
  > Obviously broadband is not a utility yet, although there is massive support to making it one, and it probably should be. But let's ignore the semantic tricks and change the argument slightly. > Why is YouTube equivalent to Electricity/Water? This is not the comparison I am making. I am comparing YouTube to ISPs and claiming that arguments for or against censorship in the former could also apply to the latter.