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Apple could actually compete and fix their broken WebGl support, sound API or whatever makes the games not work on their browser. The reason I personally don't

Apple could actually compete and fix their broken WebGl support, sound API or whatever makes the games not work on their browser. The reason I personally don't support Safari is because I can test it, there is no Safari for Linux and when I tried to use a third party service for testing they were missing the Beta versions and a coworker that had a Mac could not install the Beta because Apple wanted an OS update first. But we support Firefox so if Chrome/Chromium is not on your liking for my stuff you can use Firefox.

asddubs 5y ago
Epiphany is a pretty good safari substitute under linux, although I do share your gripe. In the end I did just buy a used iphone 6s to test stuff on mobile safari, but I agree that I shouldn't have to. Still, I fear that if google manages to do to safari what it did to firefox, that it will be bad for firefox as well. Right now safari is realistically pretty much the last hurdle from people just testing exclusively against the chrome API along with all its bugs and proprietary interfaces.
- simion314 5y ago
  A phone is not enough, you need a desktop too, most of our issues where with WebGl , first they broke it on iOS and we put a check to detect the mobile devices and disable th ee WebGl feature and use a downgraded 2D version , later Apple decided to update iPads browser to pretend it is a desktop(probably to avoid some websites sending iPad users the mobile version) but this broke our detection and this people where getting the webGl feature that failed on iOS. We fixed this iPad issue but later Apple put on desktop same broken WebGl thing and now we had to detect all newer Safari versions and downgrade them all to the 2d slower and uglier thing. I do not control the WegGl plugin I spoke of so I don't know the details why it broke, anyway we had the issues reported by customers because no developer in our team wants to use Apple stuff. I don't think the GNOME browser would have caught this WebGl issues since is probably related with Apple removing OpenGl support for their drivers.
  - asddubs 5y ago
    oh yeah, i imagine that's even more nasty to deal with. I just test rendering and basic javascript stuff, so for my usecase it works.
captn3m0 5y ago
For anyone who dual uses Linux/iOS - Safari is a no go. Even basic things like Bookmarks, Passwords, History sync can’t be used across Linux which means users like us _must use Firefox or Chrome_ which are crippled on iOS.
- mmis1000 5y ago
  I guess that is the point: why not use mac instead, you would have better user experience! /s

asddubs 5y ago

Epiphany is a pretty good safari substitute under linux, although I do share your gripe. In the end I did just buy a used iphone 6s to test stuff on mobile safari, but I agree that I shouldn't have to. Still, I fear that if google manages to do to safari what it did to firefox, that it will be bad for firefox as well. Right now safari is realistically pretty much the last hurdle from people just testing exclusively against the chrome API along with all its bugs and proprietary interfaces.

simion314 5y ago
A phone is not enough, you need a desktop too, most of our issues where with WebGl , first they broke it on iOS and we put a check to detect the mobile devices and disable th ee WebGl feature and use a downgraded 2D version , later Apple decided to update iPads browser to pretend it is a desktop(probably to avoid some websites sending iPad users the mobile version) but this broke our detection and this people where getting the webGl feature that failed on iOS. We fixed this iPad issue but later Apple put on desktop same broken WebGl thing and now we had to detect all newer Safari versions and downgrade them all to the 2d slower and uglier thing. I do not control the WegGl plugin I spoke of so I don't know the details why it broke, anyway we had the issues reported by customers because no developer in our team wants to use Apple stuff. I don't think the GNOME browser would have caught this WebGl issues since is probably related with Apple removing OpenGl support for their drivers.
- asddubs 5y ago
  oh yeah, i imagine that's even more nasty to deal with. I just test rendering and basic javascript stuff, so for my usecase it works.

captn3m0 5y ago

For anyone who dual uses Linux/iOS - Safari is a no go. Even basic things like Bookmarks, Passwords, History sync can’t be used across Linux which means users like us _must use Firefox or Chrome_ which are crippled on iOS.

mmis1000 5y ago
I guess that is the point: why not use mac instead, you would have better user experience! /s