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John Gruber / Daring Fireball has written several posts about FaceID, including: > "(Quoting Stratechery) TouchID made it far easier to have effective security

John Gruber / Daring Fireball has written several posts about FaceID, including: > "(Quoting Stratechery) TouchID made it far easier to have effective security for the vast majority of situations, and FaceID makes it invisible. [...] the first time I saw notifications be hidden and then revealed (as in the GIF above) through simply a glance produced the sort of surprise-and-delight that has traditionally characterized Apple’s best products" - https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/11/08/apple-at-its-best https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/11/08/apple-at-its-be... > "(Quoting Tom's Guide) I’ve been using Face ID on the iPhone X for more than 24 hours, and I don’t need a stopwatch to tell you that it unlocks my phone slower than when I was using Touch ID on my older iPhone 7 Plus". This is not a “workaround”. This is how you’re supposed to unlock iPhone X. Starting with a tap of the side button is not how you’re supposed to do it — you’re creating a two-step process where you only need one. [...] The best way to use Face ID is to pretend it isn’t even there, and just swipe up from the home indicator." - https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/11/01/face-id-extra-step https://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/11/01/face-id-extra-s... > "(Quoting Michael Tsai) However, Face ID also has advantages. It works with gloves on, with wet fingers, and with dry/cracked skin. It’s more convenient when the phone is in a dock or car mount where it would be hard to get my hand under it to put my thumb on the sensor." - https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/03/01/tsai-iphone-se-to-xr https://daringfireball.net/linked/2019/03/01/tsai-iphone-se-...

jeroenhd 5y ago
I wear face masks more often than I wear gloves and I sure hope facial recognition doesn't just throw away half my face. Combine that with the fact that in certain Asian countries it was normal long before COVID to wear masks when you're not well and I'm not sure which one makes more business sense. With under-screen fingerprint scanners, or the power button fingerprint scanners on some phones, that "two step process" turns back into a single step. My unlock process is to put my finger on my screen (where the fingerprint scanner is) and pull it out of my pocket. It's honestly no different from the swipe up that you need to do on iOS. Because the scanner is on the front, it also works pretty flawlessly when it's attached to a mount of some sort. Wet hands are one place where improvements can be made, but modern fingeprint scanners are doing quite well in that space as well. I've used Google's facial recognition system for ages before I had a phone with a fingeprint scanner and it was always pretty snappy for me, but I didn't set it up with this phone and I haven't missed it so far.
- spicybright 5y ago
  Most analyzing of face ID feature happened when it first came out before covid, so a lot of security claims are probably not fully accurate anymore (or at least are deserving of a re-evaluation) I have little basis for this assumption, but I imagine apple would compromise a bit of security to keep the feature people payed for working and just chop off half the face. Now what you really want to be doing is printing QR code masks to make up for the missing half of the face! /s
  - XorNot 5y ago
    The problem is companies acting like masks are an aberration: if you work in construction, or around your house, then there's plenty of moments you're not wearing gloves but can't or shouldn't take a respirator off (or it's far more involved then taking off a glove).
- ravi-delia 5y ago
  Mine actually works about half the time with a mask on. Seems weird, but I'm not complaining
kompatible 5y ago
Face ID has been upgraded since 2019 and is now a lot faster than the initial iteration. Some people may argue Touch ID will always be faster, but I think actively looking at the phone is quicker than trying to put your finger in the right spot
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jeroenhd 5y ago

I wear face masks more often than I wear gloves and I sure hope facial recognition doesn't just throw away half my face. Combine that with the fact that in certain Asian countries it was normal long before COVID to wear masks when you're not well and I'm not sure which one makes more business sense. With under-screen fingerprint scanners, or the power button fingerprint scanners on some phones, that "two step process" turns back into a single step. My unlock process is to put my finger on my screen (where the fingerprint scanner is) and pull it out of my pocket. It's honestly no different from the swipe up that you need to do on iOS. Because the scanner is on the front, it also works pretty flawlessly when it's attached to a mount of some sort. Wet hands are one place where improvements can be made, but modern fingeprint scanners are doing quite well in that space as well. I've used Google's facial recognition system for ages before I had a phone with a fingeprint scanner and it was always pretty snappy for me, but I didn't set it up with this phone and I haven't missed it so far.

spicybright 5y ago
Most analyzing of face ID feature happened when it first came out before covid, so a lot of security claims are probably not fully accurate anymore (or at least are deserving of a re-evaluation) I have little basis for this assumption, but I imagine apple would compromise a bit of security to keep the feature people payed for working and just chop off half the face. Now what you really want to be doing is printing QR code masks to make up for the missing half of the face! /s
- XorNot 5y ago
  The problem is companies acting like masks are an aberration: if you work in construction, or around your house, then there's plenty of moments you're not wearing gloves but can't or shouldn't take a respirator off (or it's far more involved then taking off a glove).
ravi-delia 5y ago
Mine actually works about half the time with a mask on. Seems weird, but I'm not complaining

kompatible 5y ago

Face ID has been upgraded since 2019 and is now a lot faster than the initial iteration. Some people may argue Touch ID will always be faster, but I think actively looking at the phone is quicker than trying to put your finger in the right spot

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