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by als0 4y ago

From your link, iOS is at 25% https://stockapps.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/market-dominance-of-smartphone-operating-systems-e1650959646697.png https://stockapps.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/market-domi...

guiambros 4y ago
BRIC countries largely dominate the high volume / low end of the range [1], so the share will change drastically per country and region. iOS is at 22% globally [2], but much higher in the US [3]. [1] https://newzoo.com/insights/rankings/top-countries-by-smartphone-penetration-and-users/ https://newzoo.com/insights/rankings/top-countries-by-smartp... [2] https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share/ https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share... [3] https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/02/15/apples-iphone-dominated-us-smartphone-market-in-2021 https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/02/15/apples-iphone-dom...
- paulmd 4y ago
  So why should users in those countries should just be discarded out of hand as far as marketshare concerns? Again, globally, an 87/13 split is extremely concerning and the numbers for actual browser share are even more tilted than that. Firefox and Safari are the only holdouts and they collectively make up about 10% of the market, everything else is Chromium in a wig.
  - Apocryphon 4y ago
    The root comment in this thread is about market share in terms of monopoly concerns. Therefore it stands to reason that each local jurisdiction, whether the U.S., E.U., South Korea, etc., will determine monopoly standards based on regional marketshare.
    - paulmd 4y ago
      The root comment in this thread is about browser marketshare in terms of monopoly terms. Hardware marketshare is actually a tangent to the actual discussion in the first place. Browser monoculture is the problem that - if you'll read back to the OP - this comment thread is supposed to be about. Forcing iOS to open up is a short-term benefit for user freedom and a long-term downside for user freedom due to the monoculture that will result when that 87% marketshare becomes 100% and we see a return to "this browser is not supported, please view this page using Chrome" and having captchas that are impossible to bypass unless you're feeding Google your personal information. Furthermore, even then, we're only at most talking about a 60-40 split even in the most cherrypicked markets... a 60-40 split is not monopoly power really. And in contrast, in the big picture Android already has an 87-13 majority, which is getting into the territory where monopoly is a concern (hence the concern over monoculture and privacy intrusions), and again that's hardware, looking at software the picture is even more bleak and Chrome/Chromium are over 90% marketshare. Anyway, you may not care about the market as a whole, but you still are affected by it regardless, so it matters, even if a few niches do remain majority (but not monopoly) apple.
      - Apocryphon 4y ago
        In this discussion, browser and hardware are intrinsically linked, because the hardware is the platform that the browser lives on, and iOS as a platform has specific restrictions about what browser engines can be used on it.

by als0 4y ago

guiambros 4y ago

BRIC countries largely dominate the high volume / low end of the range [1], so the share will change drastically per country and region. iOS is at 22% globally [2], but much higher in the US [3]. [1] https://newzoo.com/insights/rankings/top-countries-by-smartphone-penetration-and-users/ https://newzoo.com/insights/rankings/top-countries-by-smartp... [2] https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share/ https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share... [3] https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/02/15/apples-iphone-dominated-us-smartphone-market-in-2021 https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/02/15/apples-iphone-dom...

paulmd 4y ago
So why should users in those countries should just be discarded out of hand as far as marketshare concerns? Again, globally, an 87/13 split is extremely concerning and the numbers for actual browser share are even more tilted than that. Firefox and Safari are the only holdouts and they collectively make up about 10% of the market, everything else is Chromium in a wig.
- Apocryphon 4y ago
  The root comment in this thread is about market share in terms of monopoly concerns. Therefore it stands to reason that each local jurisdiction, whether the U.S., E.U., South Korea, etc., will determine monopoly standards based on regional marketshare.
  - paulmd 4y ago
    The root comment in this thread is about browser marketshare in terms of monopoly terms. Hardware marketshare is actually a tangent to the actual discussion in the first place. Browser monoculture is the problem that - if you'll read back to the OP - this comment thread is supposed to be about. Forcing iOS to open up is a short-term benefit for user freedom and a long-term downside for user freedom due to the monoculture that will result when that 87% marketshare becomes 100% and we see a return to "this browser is not supported, please view this page using Chrome" and having captchas that are impossible to bypass unless you're feeding Google your personal information. Furthermore, even then, we're only at most talking about a 60-40 split even in the most cherrypicked markets... a 60-40 split is not monopoly power really. And in contrast, in the big picture Android already has an 87-13 majority, which is getting into the territory where monopoly is a concern (hence the concern over monoculture and privacy intrusions), and again that's hardware, looking at software the picture is even more bleak and Chrome/Chromium are over 90% marketshare. Anyway, you may not care about the market as a whole, but you still are affected by it regardless, so it matters, even if a few niches do remain majority (but not monopoly) apple.
    - Apocryphon 4y ago
      In this discussion, browser and hardware are intrinsically linked, because the hardware is the platform that the browser lives on, and iOS as a platform has specific restrictions about what browser engines can be used on it.