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The promise was to "open source the twitter algo" not have a room with glass walls so you can watch the algorithm run line by line, slowly enough to be checked,

The promise was to "open source the twitter algo" not have a room with glass walls so you can watch the algorithm run line by line, slowly enough to be checked, for every single person that refreshes their feed.

MichaelMoser123 4y ago
that's exactly what i wrote: it's just a description of the algorithm in a paper, which may be out of date or inexact, unless you can examine the source code
- shapefrog 4y ago
  Seeing the source code wouldnt help, you dont know that they are running that code anymore than you know the description was implemented correctly. You would need to see the electrons flying around to know that its running that code.
  - MichaelMoser123 4y ago
    > Seeing the source code wouldnt help, you dont know that they are running that code anymore than you know the description was implemented correctly That would be correct if you talk about something entirely data driven, or based on an ML model. For example you could have an entirely table driven algorithm, where the table is read from some configuration file. You could then refrain from publishing the config file. However I don't think that Musk would pull such a trick. Or more exactly: I hope that this is not his intent. I hope that he wants to build the twitter brand by establishing trust on the part of twitters end users; a move like this would not establish any trust and would make his acquisition worthless. (that may be a naive interpretation, don't know)
    - shapefrog 4y ago
      > However I don't think that Musk would pull such a trick. Reading the tea leaves, the CEO under Musk will be the same person who was CEO till 6 months ago, Jack Dorsey. But it will be totally different this time.
      - MichaelMoser123 4y ago
        Really? Could you please share your tea leaves? That would be a fascinating turn of events...

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The promise was to "open source the twitter algo" not have a room with glass walls so you can watch the algorithm run line by line, slowly enough to be checked,

by shapefrog 4y ago

MichaelMoser123 4y ago
that's exactly what i wrote: it's just a description of the algorithm in a paper, which may be out of date or inexact, unless you can examine the source code
- shapefrog 4y ago
  Seeing the source code wouldnt help, you dont know that they are running that code anymore than you know the description was implemented correctly. You would need to see the electrons flying around to know that its running that code.
  - MichaelMoser123 4y ago
    > Seeing the source code wouldnt help, you dont know that they are running that code anymore than you know the description was implemented correctly That would be correct if you talk about something entirely data driven, or based on an ML model. For example you could have an entirely table driven algorithm, where the table is read from some configuration file. You could then refrain from publishing the config file. However I don't think that Musk would pull such a trick. Or more exactly: I hope that this is not his intent. I hope that he wants to build the twitter brand by establishing trust on the part of twitters end users; a move like this would not establish any trust and would make his acquisition worthless. (that may be a naive interpretation, don't know)
    - shapefrog 4y ago
      > However I don't think that Musk would pull such a trick. Reading the tea leaves, the CEO under Musk will be the same person who was CEO till 6 months ago, Jack Dorsey. But it will be totally different this time.
      - MichaelMoser123 4y ago
        Really? Could you please share your tea leaves? That would be a fascinating turn of events...